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I Am An AI Hater

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443 points BallsInIt | 2 comments | 27 Aug 25 19:10 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jkingsman ◴[27 Aug 25 19:49 UTC] No.45044262[source]▶
I appreciate seeing this point of view represented. It's not one I personally hold, but it is one a LOT of my friends hold, and I think it's important that it be given a voice, even if -- perhaps especially if -- a lot of people disagree with it.

One of my friends sent me a delightful bastardization of the famous IBM quote:

A COMPUTER CAN NEVER FEEL SPITEFUL OR [PASSIONATE†]. THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER CREATE ART.

Hate is an emotional word, and I suspect many people (myself included) may leap to take logical issue with an emotional position. But emotions are real, and human, and people absolutely have them about AI, and I think that's important to talk about and respect that fact.

† replaced with a slightly less salacious word than the original in consideration for politeness.

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randcraw ◴[27 Aug 25 19:57 UTC] No.45044367[source]▶
Picasso's Guernica was born of hate, his hate of war, of dehumanization for petty political ends. No computer will ever empathize with the senseless inhumanity of war to produce such a work. It must forever parrot.
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perching_aix ◴[27 Aug 25 20:20 UTC] No.45044662[source]▶
To honor the "spirit" of OP's post:

I looked up Picasso's Guernica now out of curiosity. I don't understand what's so great about this artwork. Or why it would represent any of the things you mention. It just looks like deranged pencilwork. It also comes across as aggressively pretentious.

What makes that any better than some highly derivative AI generated rubbish I connect to about the same amount?

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jacquesm ◴[27 Aug 25 20:25 UTC] No.45044721[source]▶
That a human made it to express their feelings.
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perching_aix ◴[27 Aug 25 20:27 UTC] No.45044744[source]▶
What do I care? Can't even tell what feelings are supposedly being expressed there.
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mm263 ◴[27 Aug 25 20:35 UTC] No.45044857{5}[source]▶
Why do you care to connect with another human? Try to feel his emotions, what he tried to express? If you see no value in that, there's no discussion to have, honestly. For most people I know there's value in connecting with others and emphasizing with their emotions
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petralithic ◴[27 Aug 25 20:57 UTC] No.45045177{6}[source]▶
But they just said they don't get what emotions are meant to be expressed, so how can they try to feel his emotions?
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1. mm263 ◴[27 Aug 25 22:48 UTC] No.45046273{7}[source]▶
Many things require one to reject self-imposed boundaries. For example[1]:

> There's a story that, IIRC, was told by Brian Enos, where he was practicing timed drills with the goal of practicing until he could complete a specific task at or under his usual time. He was having a hard time hitting his normal time and was annoyed at himself because he was slower than usual and kept at it until he hit his target, at which point he realized he misremembered the target and was accidentally targeting a new personal best time that was better than he thought was possible. While it's too simple to say that we can achieve anything if we put our minds to it, almost none of us are operating at anywhere near our capacity and what we think we can achieve is often a major limiting factor.

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Art is nothing like shooting. My first instinct looking at Guernica is that I also feel nothing, but one can limit oneself and say: if I feel nothing initially, I will feel nothing at all. If you prime yourself to be open to an experience of putting yourself into the shoes of the author, you might start feeling something.

[1]: https://danluu.com/culture/

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2. petralithic ◴[27 Aug 25 23:19 UTC] No.45046491[source]▶
Maybe. Or maybe one just gets it, or they don't, for a particular piece.