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    Beginning 1 September, we will need to geoblock Mississippi IPs

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    295 points AndrewDucker | 17 comments | 27 Aug 25 20:03 UTC | HN request time: 0.965s | source | bottom
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    WUMBOWUMBO ◴[27 Aug 25 20:26 UTC] No.45044734[source]▶
    Clueless human, but what stops a company from ignoring these laws from certain states? How is this enforceable if a company doesn't have any infrastructure within that state?
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    0cf8612b2e1e ◴[27 Aug 25 20:29 UTC] No.45044771[source]▶
    Now I am curious as well. Are there…extradition treaties between states?
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    1. umanwizard ◴[27 Aug 25 20:35 UTC] No.45044859[source]▶
    The treaty in question is the Constitution. All states must grant extradition to any other state.

    It would be pretty crazy if you could kill someone in Arizona and then just walk over the border to California and not be able to be prosecuted…

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    2. ◴[27 Aug 25 20:42 UTC] No.45044960[source]▶
    3. stonogo ◴[27 Aug 25 20:48 UTC] No.45045036[source]▶
    Yeah, that would be crazy, but the point here is that the "crime" is not being committed in Mississippi at all.
    4. zikduruqe ◴[27 Aug 25 20:48 UTC] No.45045037[source]▶
    You mean the Zone Of Death?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Death_(Yellowstone)

    "The Zone of Death is the 50-square-mile (130 km2) area in the Idaho section of Yellowstone National Park in which, as a result of the Vicinage Clause in the Constitution of the United States, a person may be able to theoretically avoid conviction for any major crime, up to and including murder"

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    5. delfinom ◴[27 Aug 25 20:51 UTC] No.45045092[source]▶
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ny-gov-hochul-rejects-l...

    >New York governor rejects Louisiana's extradition request for doctor in abortion pill case

    cough

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    6. gjm11 ◴[27 Aug 25 20:57 UTC] No.45045172[source]▶
    That's a separate thing -- it's not about being in a different state from where the crime was committed, it's about (supposedly) it being procedurally impossible to give you the jury trial you have to have, because literally no one lives in the relevant district.
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    7. stronglikedan ◴[27 Aug 25 20:59 UTC] No.45045193[source]▶
    Exactly. We don't have a problem with too few laws and regulations. We have a problem with enforcement and accountability.
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    8. lazide ◴[27 Aug 25 21:05 UTC] No.45045277{3}[source]▶
    Which really just means of anyone tried to exploit the loophole and wasn’t politically untouchable cough, everyone would just ignore the problem and assign them to some nearby district or whatever.
    9. bee_rider ◴[27 Aug 25 21:11 UTC] No.45045329{3}[source]▶
    It seems like a problem of states trying to pass laws that control things outside their borders. The jurisdiction of Louisiana courts is Louisiana.

    I mean it would be absurd if an anti-death-sentence state started trying to extradite the executioners working in pro-death-sentence states for murder, right?

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    10. yardstick ◴[27 Aug 25 21:12 UTC] No.45045351[source]▶
    Seems like the solution is to bus in new residents if such a trial was needed.
    11. 0cf8612b2e1e ◴[27 Aug 25 21:14 UTC] No.45045369[source]▶
    Murder is a crime in all states. If the two states disagree on if a crime occurred, does the requesting state get to impose its laws on everyone?
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    12. dragonwriter ◴[27 Aug 25 21:15 UTC] No.45045376{3}[source]▶
    No, because no one lives in the relevant combination of state and district, hence why only portion of the District of Wyoming that is actually in the State of Idaho is affected.
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    13. svieira ◴[27 Aug 25 21:17 UTC] No.45045407{4}[source]▶
    If the executioner did their work in the anti-death-sentence state it wouldn't seem to be absurd, no. E. g. if they had pulled the cord that activated the electric chair remotely from a pro-death-sentence state (tele-execution ... sounds very BlackMirror).
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    14. dragonwriter ◴[27 Aug 25 21:18 UTC] No.45045416[source]▶
    > Murder is a crime in all states.

    Not by the same definition, no, its not, though there is a crime called "murder" in all states, and there tends to be significant overlap in the definitions.

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    15. bee_rider ◴[27 Aug 25 21:28 UTC] No.45045512{5}[source]▶
    I’d expect that to result in a very confusing court case. Fortunately, despite all the other messes going on, we haven’t tried anything that silly.
    16. throwmeaway222 ◴[27 Aug 25 21:53 UTC] No.45045796{3}[source]▶
    So Murder is a crime in all states.
    17. gjm11 ◴[28 Aug 25 13:33 UTC] No.45051964{4}[source]▶
    Yup, sorry, I was imprecise.