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Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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838 points alsetmusic | 4 comments | 27 Aug 25 01:44 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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syntaxing ◴[27 Aug 25 02:06 UTC] No.45034679[source]▶
What an end to an era. It's crazy to think she started this journey at 18 and now finished 5 years later. Not many people believed they would be able to make the GPU work in Asahi linux. Kinda curious what her "Onto the next challenge!" link means. Is she working for Intel Xe-HPG next?
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kccqzy ◴[27 Aug 25 02:18 UTC] No.45034754[source]▶
Yes I think so. Her resume says she started working for Intel on open source graphics driver this month.
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xiphias2 ◴[27 Aug 25 06:23 UTC] No.45036050[source]▶
Too bad it was not Apple who hired her for M4, but in business leaders are always the most closed ones.
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homebrewer ◴[27 Aug 25 08:30 UTC] No.45036897[source]▶
Thanks Jesus it's Intel and not Apple, Intel has been extremely good at working upstream and has immense contributions in the Linux kernel, mesa, and elsewhere. Wasting such talent on Apple would make the world worse for us all.
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MangoToupe ◴[27 Aug 25 13:02 UTC] No.45039080[source]▶
I don't see a future for intel, frankly, but I'm very happy she found a good paying job.
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1. tlamponi ◴[27 Aug 25 15:00 UTC] No.45040650[source]▶
There was a time when people said that about AMD.

Don't get me wrong, Intel's outlook is IMO currently indeed rather bleak, but I would not completely write it off just yet.

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2. CharlesW ◴[27 Aug 25 15:08 UTC] No.45040776[source]▶
> There was a time when people said that about AMD.

And Apple, to complete the circle.

3. MangoToupe ◴[27 Aug 25 23:48 UTC] No.45046690[source]▶
AMD is equally fucked. Building off of IP-locked architectures is just a graveyard. Even apple will hit a wall one day.
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4. Incipient ◴[28 Aug 25 03:55 UTC] No.45048213[source]▶
There are a myriad of companies that have thrived in "IP locked" environments, a host that have failed too. Equally there are heaps that have thrived and failed in "IP open" environments.

I think at best you could say it's more challenging or perhaps risky being a bit restricted with IP, but I'd call it miles away from a "graveyard".

You can hardly call Intel/amd/qualcomm etc all struggling due to the architectures being locked down.

Look at powerpc/Isa. It's (entirely?) open and hasn't really done any better than x86.

Fundamentally you're going to be tied to backwards compatibility to some extent. You're limited to evolution, not revolution. And I don't think x86 had failed to evolve? (eg avx10 is very new)