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127 ◴[] No.45038436[source]
Just recently moved onto Linux. Most likely not coming back when these kind of things just keep happening. I'm really surprised how well everything works. 120Hz HDR 4k Nvidia no issues on Wayland. Kubuntu 25.04/Plasma 6.3 is very nice. EasyEffects/PipeWire makes audio better compared to Windows. Steam/Proton/Wine works very well for games outside ones that have kernel level rootkits. Outside DualSense controller having issues connecting to bluetooth I can't think of anything that's worse than Windows while many things are better.
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anal_reactor ◴[] No.45039614[source]
First I switched to Linux Mint. Turns out anno 2025 most distros are still made with legacy ThinkPads in mind. Then I installed Fedora KDE. It gives an impression of working. Make no mistake - I have weird display glitches, shit crashes all the time, stuff randomly refuses to work, some devices I have require ridiculous workarounds, basic tasks require cryptic terminal commands, software updates introduce awkward regressions, but I think we've truly reached the milestone where a dedicated person can run Linux as their main desktop system. I suppose in about 30 years we'll have a Linux distribution that can be used on desktop without any IT knowledge.

Of course technically speaking I shouldn't complain because I have provided nothing of value to the Linux ecosystem (how the fuck do I even start, even if I wanted to?), but still, the point stands.

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1. pessimizer ◴[] No.45040466[source]
> we've truly reached the milestone where a dedicated person can run Linux as their main desktop system.

You're 20 years too late for this.

The reason why Linux doesn't run well on the latest greatest hardware (and never has) is because the vendors of that hardware range from indifferent to actively hostile to Linux, and to make the system work people have to fight. Buy a legacy thinkpad, or something you've researched, and you'll have fewer problems than with Windows or Macs (which are tied to even more specific hardware and obsoleted by company whim.)

Of course, if you're on the bleeding edge of technology, everyone is using Linux (whether directly or in VMs and containers), so when I say the latest greatest, I mean the latest greatest consumer and business user stuff.

I've never understood comments like this. It's like you're looking at a pool full of people who have been swimming for years and telling you the pool is nice, and saying: "I guess it's finally ready for the real experts now."

Also, if you love vendors so much, you can have one. Buy your Linux computer from somebody who sells Linux computers, knows any problems you'll run into on that specially-selected hardware, and call them when you have a problem, just like you would do for the others.

> Of course technically speaking I shouldn't complain because I have provided nothing of value to the Linux ecosystem

This is the worst point by far. You can complain about anything that is broken, you just can't expect anyone to care (because you haven't obligated anyone to.) The problem isn't complaining, it's complaining badly. Get a vendor, whine to them.

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2. trelane ◴[] No.45042046[source]
> the vendors of that hardware range from indifferent to actively hostile to Linux

Not all. System76, Framework, and others come to mind.

But yes, for the most part, hardware is designed for Windows and only works on Linux despite the vendor, rather than due to them.

3. anal_reactor ◴[] No.45044152[source]
That's completely true, but from the point of view of a user who just wants a working system, also completely irrelevant. If I were to recommend Linux to my mom she wouldn't care why exactly her computer doesn't work correctly, she only cares about the fact that it worked on Windows and doesn't work on Linux.

I hope that as Valve pushes people into gaming on Linux, things will slowly change.