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habibur ◴[] No.45032963[source]
This won't enable perpetual space travel in case anyone thought so.

Rockets need to eject particles to generate force. And to eject 1 kg of fuel, its photo synthesis system has to lose 1 km of mass in one way or another.

The solution is to find a way to generate thrust without rocket fuel ejection.

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Buttons840 ◴[] No.45033094[source]
Can we "swim" through space? Collect particles from space, add energy, expell them backwards to generate a net thrust.
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aspbee555 ◴[] No.45033121[source]
no particles needed, we already have ion drive, just need electricity
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1. Cthulhu_ ◴[] No.45038108{3}[source]
Ion drives ionize particles like xenon and expel them; they're much more fuel/weight efficient than burning fuel but they still use fuel, unfortunately.

There's been a number of pure electric propulsion proposals or prototypes, but they've all turned out to be a hoax; the latest one I recall was the EmDrive [0], where any paper claiming it produced positive thrust was debunked with the measurements having been influenced by outside forces.

The TL;DR is that reactionless drives are not possible due to Newton's third law. This page / this website is always a great resource for things like this, it's in the context of writing science fiction but it has tons of research: [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive

[1] https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/reactionlessdr...