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Tade0 ◴[] No.45037214[source]
A major reason I don't treat conspiracy theorists seriously is that with all their paranoia they have a huge blind spot for the Captain-Planet-cartoon-villainy the oil industry is engaging in.

Just the stuff the Heartland Institute does is enough to write a book about and still not a peep from the usual crowd.

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1. MomsAVoxell ◴[] No.45037331[source]
If you don't treat conspiracy theorists seriously, how would you know if the conspiracy theory scene has already addressed oil industry corruption?

The War-for-Oil conspiracy theories are proven correct.

The suppression of 'free energy' is discussed widely as being a result of oil-industry repression.

And on and on.

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2. Dylan16807 ◴[] No.45037376[source]
You can learn about a scene without thinking they're competent.

It doesn't really prove war for oil, war tends to mess up production and also we have a huge amount of domestic production. But that depends on what exactly the claims are.

"Free energy" doesn't exist so that just goes back to them barking up the wrong tree. It's taking a real villain and blaming them for nonsense instead of something they actually do.

3. Tade0 ◴[] No.45037666[source]
> how would you know if the conspiracy theory scene has already addressed oil industry corruption?

Because it hasn't. The "free energy" stuff is way off the mark and pales in comparison to absolute kookery of weather machines being responsible for things climate change is actually doing.

They don't have a solid grasp of reality and it shows in how they're unaware about the specific things the oil industry is doing. Much of their rhetoric is big oil propaganda being repeated anyway.

War for oil isn't a conspiracy - it's such obvious public knowledge that there are memes about it. Yes, the country that is a major oil producer and in the currency of which most if not all oil transactions are done uses its military might to preserve the status quo - that's hardly a secret.

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4. MomsAVoxell ◴[] No.45038263[source]
War for oil is a conspiracy, but an unprosecuted one.

Your disdain for the conspiracy theorist scene is mirrored in that scenes disdain for justice.

In the case where there is actionable justice that can be achieved, the conspiracy theory is no longer a theory - the conspiracy is prosecuted in the courts of our proud nations' democratic institutions.

5. viridian ◴[] No.45043231[source]
Would you claim that the U.S. invasion of Iraq being primarily for oil was not a conspiracy theory?

If so, then you are at odds with (at the very least) then president George W. Bush, and then prime ministers Tony Blair and John Howard.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, either the conspiracy theorists do include oil-motive conspiracy theorists, or heads of state have little influence over what is considered an acceptable, non-conspiratorial idea in public discourse.

6. yyyk ◴[] No.45046484[source]
>The War-for-Oil conspiracy theories are proven correct.

Almost all of the post-Iraq oil contracts went for Chinese companies. The US made very little of it.