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1. Tade0 ◴[] No.45037214[source]
A major reason I don't treat conspiracy theorists seriously is that with all their paranoia they have a huge blind spot for the Captain-Planet-cartoon-villainy the oil industry is engaging in.

Just the stuff the Heartland Institute does is enough to write a book about and still not a peep from the usual crowd.

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2. MomsAVoxell ◴[] No.45037331[source]
If you don't treat conspiracy theorists seriously, how would you know if the conspiracy theory scene has already addressed oil industry corruption?

The War-for-Oil conspiracy theories are proven correct.

The suppression of 'free energy' is discussed widely as being a result of oil-industry repression.

And on and on.

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3. Dylan16807 ◴[] No.45037376[source]
You can learn about a scene without thinking they're competent.

It doesn't really prove war for oil, war tends to mess up production and also we have a huge amount of domestic production. But that depends on what exactly the claims are.

"Free energy" doesn't exist so that just goes back to them barking up the wrong tree. It's taking a real villain and blaming them for nonsense instead of something they actually do.

4. autoexec ◴[] No.45037570[source]
Plenty of conspiracy theorists have conspiracies about the oil industry being evil, it's just harder to spot them when so many of them turn out to be true. Fracking, OPEC, exxon, BP, government deals with "suspicious" Saudis, and oil spills are common targets. The wild stuff is pretty much the usual though. Depopulation, psychic attacks, secret global government stuff, UFOs, etc.
5. Tade0 ◴[] No.45037666[source]
> how would you know if the conspiracy theory scene has already addressed oil industry corruption?

Because it hasn't. The "free energy" stuff is way off the mark and pales in comparison to absolute kookery of weather machines being responsible for things climate change is actually doing.

They don't have a solid grasp of reality and it shows in how they're unaware about the specific things the oil industry is doing. Much of their rhetoric is big oil propaganda being repeated anyway.

War for oil isn't a conspiracy - it's such obvious public knowledge that there are memes about it. Yes, the country that is a major oil producer and in the currency of which most if not all oil transactions are done uses its military might to preserve the status quo - that's hardly a secret.

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6. extraisland ◴[] No.45037793[source]
It is more likely they just don't care about the oil industry and focus their attention elsewhere. I would wager that most people assume that large corporations have dirty secrets.

e.g. I listen to a guy that goes exposes the conmen in the UFO community. The reason the guy focuses on UFOs is because he believes that when he was younger he saw a UFO. Over time he slowly realised over time that he had been lied to by these conmen. He isn't interested in the truth about the oil industry, he cares about the truth around UFO encounters because that is what he cares about.

7. MomsAVoxell ◴[] No.45038263{3}[source]
War for oil is a conspiracy, but an unprosecuted one.

Your disdain for the conspiracy theorist scene is mirrored in that scenes disdain for justice.

In the case where there is actionable justice that can be achieved, the conspiracy theory is no longer a theory - the conspiracy is prosecuted in the courts of our proud nations' democratic institutions.

8. viridian ◴[] No.45043231{3}[source]
Would you claim that the U.S. invasion of Iraq being primarily for oil was not a conspiracy theory?

If so, then you are at odds with (at the very least) then president George W. Bush, and then prime ministers Tony Blair and John Howard.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, either the conspiracy theorists do include oil-motive conspiracy theorists, or heads of state have little influence over what is considered an acceptable, non-conspiratorial idea in public discourse.

9. yyyk ◴[] No.45046484[source]
>The War-for-Oil conspiracy theories are proven correct.

Almost all of the post-Iraq oil contracts went for Chinese companies. The US made very little of it.