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arnaudsm ◴[] No.45033273[source]
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atleastoptimal ◴[] No.45033977[source]
Doesn't matter. That hype will draw attention, which will draw investors, which will draw in money to pay for the best researchers until they become SOTA.

If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up.

Distribution is part of innovation. Brain computer interfaces exist but those who would be willing to undergo the procedure to get them don't have that option, then an inefficiency exists in the market that can be filled by a competitor. Musk's companies play on the same field as everyone else, but they continue to win because operating efficiency, mind-share and tactics are all part of the game, and he is the best at winning it in many domains.

Edit: I understand the ethical considerations of such a nascent technology. I just feel that we live in a world where miracles exist that could help thousands of lives, but they move too slowly to help those lives. How long are paralyzed people waiting for a cheap way to have some more agency in the world? Is the only way to reach it being available sooner doing unscrupulous things that buck safety requirements?

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cramsession ◴[] No.45034041[source]
That's not how things have played out with Tesla. They have all the investment in the world and the most irrational valuation to have ever graced the public markets, yet their tech is years behind competitors.
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atleastoptimal ◴[] No.45034422[source]
Does any other consumer car brand have a self-driving mode as good as Tesla's?
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fuzzylightbulb ◴[] No.45034707[source]
"Tastiest steaming pile at the dog park" is a curious honor to wrap one's champion in but perhaps I'm not the target audience
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rogerrogerr ◴[] No.45034813[source]
That “steaming pile at the dog park” drives me driveway-to-parking-lot without intervention on 100% of my drives now. It’s one of the best steaming piles I’ve ever seen and I would pay many dollars for that steaming pile on future cars I purchase.
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1. FireBeyond ◴[] No.45035224[source]
> would pay many dollars for that steaming pile on future cars I purchase.

Thankfully Elon has already got that sorted for you! $12k, and if you sell your Tesla for a new one, you’ll have to buy it again! Doesn’t transfer with you (or the car for that matter, it just vanishes on title transfer).

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2. rogerrogerr ◴[] No.45035493[source]
Literally everything you wrote is false, you should educate yourself more to avoid spreading misinformation:

1. FSD on a new car is currently $8k [0]

2. FSD has been transferable on buying a new car for a while - there’s usually some kind of promo [1]

3. If you don’t transfer it to a new car, it does transfer with the car [2]

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0: https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview

1: https://www.tesla.com/support/fsd-transfer

2: I bought my car used and FSD stayed with the car, the default behavior unless you use a promo like [1]

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3. FireBeyond ◴[] No.45035516[source]
Oh good! They've done better, then.

It was $12K. And as you acknowledge, it was non-transferable until relatively recently.