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465 points susanthenerd | 8 comments | 26 Aug 25 15:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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nrp ◴[26 Aug 25 15:35 UTC] No.45028012[source]▶
I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.
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Deuter8 ◴[26 Aug 25 15:39 UTC] No.45028056[source]▶
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops.

Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option?

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soperj ◴[26 Aug 25 15:58 UTC] No.45028332[source]▶
Thinkpads still have buttons. I don't ever use the trackpad, just the nub and buttons.
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1. neilv ◴[26 Aug 25 16:27 UTC] No.45028773[source]▶
I have bad news for you:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...

Someone should scoop up the niche market of anguished ThinkPad devotees, with a TrackPoint and a good, non-chiclet keyboard. Maybe Framework, leveraging its modular system. Maybe a Framework-compatible third-party.

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2. rootnod3 ◴[26 Aug 25 17:52 UTC] No.45029959[source]▶
Why have a trackpoint if there are no buttons? Dafuq?
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3. neilv ◴[26 Aug 25 18:03 UTC] No.45030105[source]▶
I think you're supposed to touch the touchpad in particular ways with your thumb, while using your index finger on the TrackPoint stick.

I wonder what the set intersection is, between people who want TrackPoint sticks, and people who don't want TrackPoint buttons.

ThinkPad industrial design the last several years seems focused on looking thin and sleek -- like an Apple product, only in matte black, with a red accent in the middle of the keyboard -- but some of the human factors changes aren't intuitive to me.

4. JoshTriplett ◴[26 Aug 25 21:40 UTC] No.45032656[source]▶
Current models of the X1 have the option of having buttons or not. Which seems fine, but hopefully it isn't a sign that they're trying to drop the option of buttons.
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5. smj-edison ◴[26 Aug 25 21:45 UTC] No.45032712[source]▶
I just watched Framework's other video talking about what they're working on[1], and they mentioned they're trying to get the trackpoint working, but they're having issues with it damaging the screen due to the low clearance.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RzUBqtgODM

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6. neilv ◴[26 Aug 25 22:32 UTC] No.45033169[source]▶
Thanks. At 11m. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RzUBqtgODM&t=11m
7. mrheosuper ◴[27 Aug 25 02:18 UTC] No.45034760[source]▶
it's the sign they are researching if there are enough demand for the nipple.
8. soperj ◴[27 Aug 25 15:57 UTC] No.45041401[source]▶
what a dumb thing to do. How do you even scroll with the nub?