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Framework Laptop 16

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nrp ◴[] No.45028012[source]
I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.
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Deuter8 ◴[] No.45028056[source]
I literally just want a touchpad with buttons. These new 'clickpads' are the bane of my existence. They are so much slower, and certain workflows are impossible. I must use an external mouse now with modern laptops.

Why can no laptop manufacturer even make this an option?

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1. soperj ◴[] No.45028332[source]
Thinkpads still have buttons. I don't ever use the trackpad, just the nub and buttons.
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2. SoftTalker ◴[] No.45028378[source]
Best keyboard/mouse implementation ever. I use a thinkpad keyboard on my desktop. A separate mouse feels so klunky by comparison.
3. rustyminnow ◴[] No.45028480[source]
I would be all in on the nub if mine didn't have such terrible drift. Trackpad with top buttons beats any other trackpad though.
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4. JoshTriplett ◴[] No.45028606[source]
I use the touchpad together with the buttons, on my ThinkPad, and rarely use the stick.
5. neilv ◴[] No.45028773[source]
I have bad news for you:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...

Someone should scoop up the niche market of anguished ThinkPad devotees, with a TrackPoint and a good, non-chiclet keyboard. Maybe Framework, leveraging its modular system. Maybe a Framework-compatible third-party.

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6. tracker1 ◴[] No.45029708[source]
Some Dell business models have them as well... I used to be a fan, but at this point I prefer the Mac touchpad experience. The closest I've felt are Razor and a few higher end Chromebooks (that I won' t buy). I'm hoping other mfgs get a lot closer to the Apple touchpad experience as patents start to expire in the next few years.

There's a few that are close, but still not close enough. Also, Mac slightly changed their default settings (regarding the physical click behavior), I never recall what it is but only that I change it back when starting out on a new machine.

7. rootnod3 ◴[] No.45029959[source]
Why have a trackpoint if there are no buttons? Dafuq?
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8. neilv ◴[] No.45030105{3}[source]
I think you're supposed to touch the touchpad in particular ways with your thumb, while using your index finger on the TrackPoint stick.

I wonder what the set intersection is, between people who want TrackPoint sticks, and people who don't want TrackPoint buttons.

ThinkPad industrial design the last several years seems focused on looking thin and sleek -- like an Apple product, only in matte black, with a red accent in the middle of the keyboard -- but some of the human factors changes aren't intuitive to me.

9. JoshTriplett ◴[] No.45032656[source]
Current models of the X1 have the option of having buttons or not. Which seems fine, but hopefully it isn't a sign that they're trying to drop the option of buttons.
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10. smj-edison ◴[] No.45032712[source]
I just watched Framework's other video talking about what they're working on[1], and they mentioned they're trying to get the trackpoint working, but they're having issues with it damaging the screen due to the low clearance.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RzUBqtgODM

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11. neilv ◴[] No.45033169{3}[source]
Thanks. At 11m. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RzUBqtgODM&t=11m
12. opan ◴[] No.45034065[source]
You may be running into the auto calibration.
13. mrheosuper ◴[] No.45034760{3}[source]
it's the sign they are researching if there are enough demand for the nipple.
14. soperj ◴[] No.45041401[source]
what a dumb thing to do. How do you even scroll with the nub?