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447 points stephenheron | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.203s | source

Hi,

My daily workhorse is a M1 Pro that I purchased on release date, It has been one of the best tech purchases I have made, even now it really deals with anything I throw at it. My daily work load is regularly having a Android emulator, iOS simulator and a number of Dockers containers running simultaneously and I never hear the fans, battery life has taken a bit of a hit but it is still very respectable.

I wanted a new personal laptop, and I was debating between a MacBook Air or going for a Framework 13 with Linux. I wanted to lean into learning something new so went with the Framework and I must admit I am regretting it a bit.

The M1 was released back in 2020 and I bought the Ryzen AI 340 which is one of the newest 2025 chips from AMD, so AMD has 5 years of extra development and I had expected them to get close to the M1 in terms of battery efficiency and thermals.

The Ryzen is using a TSMC N4P process compared to the older N5 process, I managed to find a TSMC press release showing the performance/efficiency gains from the newer process: “When compared to N5, N4P offers users a reported +11% performance boost or a 22% reduction in power consumption. Beyond that, N4P can offer users a 6% increase in transistor density over N5”

I am sorely disappointed, using the Framework feels like using an older Intel based Mac. If I open too many tabs in Chrome I can feel the bottom of the laptop getting hot, open a YouTube video and the fans will often spin up.

Why haven’t AMD/Intel been able to catch up? Is x86 just not able to keep up with the ARM architecture? When can we expect a x86 laptop chip to match the M1 in efficiency/thermals?!

To be fair I haven’t tried Windows on the Framework yet it might be my Linux setup being inefficient.

Cheers, Stephen

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purpleidea ◴[] No.45023226[source]
Honestly, I have serious FOMO about this. I am never going to run a Mac (or worse: Windows) I'm 100% on Linux, but I seriously hate it that I can't reliably work at a coffee shop for five hours. Not even doing that much other than some music, coding, and a few compiles of golang code.

My Apple friends get 12+ hrs of battery life. I really wish Lenovo+Fedora or whoever would get together and make that possible.

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1. mnw21cam ◴[] No.45024749[source]
I have a 7.5 year old Asus Zenbook UX305CA. It was the perfect laptop for my use case, given I run all heavy stuff on remote servers. 3200x1800 HiDPI screen, 8GB RAM, no fan, rigid aluminium construction (so it feels high quality), and it runs Linux pretty reliably. It used to get at least 6-7 hours of doing actual work, and one night I forgot to hibernate it or plug it in, and it was still running the next morning.

Now, 7.5 years later, the battery is not so healthy any more, and I'm looking around for something similar, and finding nothing. I'm seriously considering just replacing the battery. I'll be stuck with only 8GB RAM and an ancient CPU, but it still looks like the best option.

Another useful thing is that you can buy small portable battery packs that are meant for jump-starting car engines, and they have a 12V output (probably more like 14V), which could quite possibly be piped straight into the DC input of a laptop. My laptop asks for 19V, but it could probably cope with this.