My daily workhorse is a M1 Pro that I purchased on release date, It has been one of the best tech purchases I have made, even now it really deals with anything I throw at it. My daily work load is regularly having a Android emulator, iOS simulator and a number of Dockers containers running simultaneously and I never hear the fans, battery life has taken a bit of a hit but it is still very respectable.
I wanted a new personal laptop, and I was debating between a MacBook Air or going for a Framework 13 with Linux. I wanted to lean into learning something new so went with the Framework and I must admit I am regretting it a bit.
The M1 was released back in 2020 and I bought the Ryzen AI 340 which is one of the newest 2025 chips from AMD, so AMD has 5 years of extra development and I had expected them to get close to the M1 in terms of battery efficiency and thermals.
The Ryzen is using a TSMC N4P process compared to the older N5 process, I managed to find a TSMC press release showing the performance/efficiency gains from the newer process: “When compared to N5, N4P offers users a reported +11% performance boost or a 22% reduction in power consumption. Beyond that, N4P can offer users a 6% increase in transistor density over N5”
I am sorely disappointed, using the Framework feels like using an older Intel based Mac. If I open too many tabs in Chrome I can feel the bottom of the laptop getting hot, open a YouTube video and the fans will often spin up.
Why haven’t AMD/Intel been able to catch up? Is x86 just not able to keep up with the ARM architecture? When can we expect a x86 laptop chip to match the M1 in efficiency/thermals?!
To be fair I haven’t tried Windows on the Framework yet it might be my Linux setup being inefficient.
Cheers, Stephen
My Apple friends get 12+ hrs of battery life. I really wish Lenovo+Fedora or whoever would get together and make that possible.
That doesn't sound super secure to me.
> for five hours.
My experience with anything that is not designed to be an office is that it will be uncomfortable in the long run. I can't see myself working for 5 hours in that kind of place.
Also it seems it is quite easily solved with an external battery pack. They may not last 12hours but they should last 4 to 6 hours without a charge in powersaving mode.
Don't you drink any coffee in the coffee shop? I hope you do. But, still, being there for /five/ hours is excessive.
Now, 7.5 years later, the battery is not so healthy any more, and I'm looking around for something similar, and finding nothing. I'm seriously considering just replacing the battery. I'll be stuck with only 8GB RAM and an ancient CPU, but it still looks like the best option.
Another useful thing is that you can buy small portable battery packs that are meant for jump-starting car engines, and they have a 12V output (probably more like 14V), which could quite possibly be piped straight into the DC input of a laptop. My laptop asks for 19V, but it could probably cope with this.
HP has Ubuntu-certified strix halo machines for example.
I'm guessing you're well aware, but just in case you're not: Asahi Linux is working extremely well on M1/M2 devices and easily covers your "5 hours of work at a coffee shop" use case.
It's not 8-12, and the fans do kick up. The track pad is fine but not as nice as the one on the MacBook. But I prefer to run Linux so the tradeoff is worth it to me.
I'm a Linux guy too, when I have to use a Mac I turn all the gloss off and it's ok, but without going to Nix I miss a system wide package manager and I like an open-as-possible community OS that runs everywhere. It's a shame Apple doesn't license their chips.
About a year ago I got a maxed out Macbook Pro, but the above combined with the fact I wasn't comfortable travelling with something that cost as much as a good used car made me return it.
Now I'm using a Thinkpad that was ¼ the price and it's great, AMD chip, 64GB of RAM, replaceable storage, fantastic screen, keyboard (and Trackpoint) means it can do just about anything. Yes, battery life is limited, around four hours with the 16" OLED (I haven't put any work into optimizing it, and this isn't a battery-first model), but I can handle it. I'll maybe get a Strix Halo laptop since I like running LLMs, but otherwise x86 has improved enough that it's pretty good. That said, I won't complain if it matches/surpasses Apple chips, and I'd consider running a headless Apple 'server' at home.
At least from my side, if I have to work on a laptop outside, I'll just find a good table, plug it in an outlet and, you know, work on it, with almost no changes of body position.
Not to be dismissive but I genuinely don't understand what's the problem with your laptop being plugged in when working from a coffee shop.