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torginus ◴[] No.45011561[source]
I genuinely do not understand where how the idea of building a total surveillance police state, where all speech is monitored, can even as much as seriously be considered by an allegedly pro-democracy, pro-human rights government, much less make it into law.

Also:

Step 1: Build mass surveillance to prevent the 'bad guys' from coming into political power (its ok, we're the good guys).

Step 2: Your political opponents capitalize on your genuinely horrific overreach, and legitimize themselves in the eyes of the public as fighting against tyranny (unfortunately for you they do have a point). They promise to dismantle the system if coming to power.

Step 3: They get elected.

Step 4: They don't dismantle the system, now the people you planned to use the system against are using it against you.

Sounds brilliant, lets do this.

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luke727 ◴[] No.45011932[source]
The thing you have to understand is that the average Brit wants and possibly needs the government to tell them how to live their lives. It's a completely foreign paradigm to the average American, though alarming "progress" has been made on the American front as of late.
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_nada[dead post] ◴[] No.45012249[source]
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luke727 ◴[] No.45012353[source]
My comment provoked you enough to create an account just to make a throwaway insult reply to it. I think perhaps it hit closer to home than you would care to acknolwedge.
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kachapopopow ◴[] No.45012415[source]
they're kinda right, in europe we really don't give a shit about politics and if we do you're doing something wrong.
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luke727 ◴[] No.45012644[source]
You should give a shit because Europe is on its way to implementing its own horrible legislation [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Comb...

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1. monkey_monkey ◴[] No.45012824{3}[source]
https://legiscan.com/MS/text/HB1126/id/2988284

America ! America! God Shine Her Light On Theeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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2. account42 ◴[] No.45023682[source]
In what way is this supposed to be a response to the statement that Europeans should give a shit a bout chat control?

Do you think this is a contest where as long as you can find other countries with similar shit you don't score last?