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A German ISP changed their DNS to block my website

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808 points shaunpud | 3 comments | 24 Aug 25 10:27 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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breppp ◴[24 Aug 25 11:41 UTC] No.45003466[source]▶
Europe and Germany in particular took from the 30s-40s the lesson where freedom of expression is a risk in democracies because a demagogue can easily sway opinions. For that reason they are in a better position to protect themselves against the 21st century threat to democracy of foreign influences networks
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Dilettante_ ◴[24 Aug 25 12:42 UTC] No.45003830[source]▶
"We need more government action and control to protect you from le bad people" does not in fact strike me as the opposite of what happened in Nazi Germany.
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breppp ◴[24 Aug 25 13:04 UTC] No.45003976[source]▶
Yet, free speech and democracy was exploited by a group that aimed at dismantling free speech and democracy (among many other things)
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1. Dilettante_ ◴[24 Aug 25 14:05 UTC] No.45004333[source]▶
So, to prevent that from happening, we ought to dismantle free speech and democracy?
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2. breppp ◴[24 Aug 25 18:29 UTC] No.45006486[source]▶
Only if you think in absolute ones and zeros

You can prevent organizations whose aim is to destroy democracy by exercising some restrictions on democracy without completely dismantling free speech and democracy.

just as for example you may jail someone and completely restrict their freedom in order to protect others, without completely dismantling democracy

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3. Dilettante_ ◴[24 Aug 25 19:34 UTC] No.45007008[source]▶
Except in this case everyone is being jailed, to keep them safe from the criminal.