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808 points shaunpud | 2 comments | 24 Aug 25 10:27 UTC | HN request time: 0.433s | source
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ulrischa ◴[24 Aug 25 11:15 UTC] No.45003303[source]▶
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mtsr ◴[24 Aug 25 11:20 UTC] No.45003337[source]▶
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littlecranky67 ◴[24 Aug 25 11:29 UTC] No.45003392[source]▶
Clear case of "motive justifies the means". I think in a free democracy, no one should block any propaganda, as it the responsibility of the individual to asses what to read and what not. In a democracy, it is more dangerous to censor and justify the means with motive - this opens the door to unjust censorship.
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DoctorOW ◴[24 Aug 25 12:15 UTC] No.45003666[source]▶
> Clear case of "motive justifies the means".

Except, in the case of RT, it was not justified in an abstract way at all. Consistently "reporting" on stories counter-indicated by all available evidence.

To put it another way, if a judge can imprison a murderer for life as justified by the motive of reducing murders, what's stopping them from imprisoning everyone with no justification at all? Well, in practice the evidence required is quite a hurdle to this.

If you're not arguing that RT is innocent of what it has been accused, then you're arguing against the concept of punitive action outright.

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1. zahlman ◴[24 Aug 25 12:46 UTC] No.45003855[source]▶
> Consistently "reporting" on stories counter-indicated by all available evidence.... If you're not arguing that RT is innocent of what it has been accused

Can you give a concrete example? (Somehow I cannot recall ever seeing one proactively volunteered, in years of people denigrating RT on the Internet.)

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2. DoctorOW ◴[24 Aug 25 13:13 UTC] No.45004025[source]▶
Sure, they reported that Jewish individuals had to flee Ukraine due to a Nazi takeover and a supposed ongoing genocide. There's no evidence of the fleeing or the genocide happening. This was one of the false narratives cited in the EU court's ruling.

> Somehow I cannot recall ever seeing one proactively volunteered

I err on the side of brevity, not seeing a claim that RT's removal was unjust in the comment I was responding to, I felt no need to justify it myself.