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Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

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1163 points DaveZale | 5 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.647s | source
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max_ ◴[02 Aug 25 19:46 UTC] No.44770751[source]▶
"More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h."

This is the only secret.

People over speeding is what kills.

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astura ◴[02 Aug 25 19:49 UTC] No.44770777[source]▶
For dumb Americans like me - that 18.641 miles/hr.
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Dig1t[dead post] ◴[02 Aug 25 19:53 UTC] No.44770819[source]▶
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sapiogram ◴[02 Aug 25 20:00 UTC] No.44770886[source]▶
Making drivers miserable is part of the intention, they want people to drive less because it's annoying as hell for everyone else.
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userbinator ◴[02 Aug 25 21:10 UTC] No.44771499[source]▶
And those with that intention are authoritarians that need to be kept out of government.
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1. jdiff ◴[02 Aug 25 22:03 UTC] No.44772004[source]▶
Authoritarian has a definition, it's not just "people who make laws that keep me from doing what I want."

People in the USA still complain in the same way today about laws mandating seat belt usage, but it's still not authoritarian. It's a net positive for the wearer and everyone around them, and it's incredibly childish to push back on something for no other reason than because someone is telling you to do it.

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2. userbinator ◴[03 Aug 25 00:11 UTC] No.44772911[source]▶
New Hampshire is a state with no seat belt laws, yet it's near the bottom of traffic fatality rates in the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_road_de...

In the EU, Germany infamously has roads with no speed limits, but its traffic fatality rate isn't high either.

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3. Ray20 ◴[03 Aug 25 01:15 UTC] No.44773289[source]▶
>It's a net positive for the wearer and everyone around them

This is literally the argument autocrats use for any authoritarian law they pass.

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4. petre ◴[03 Aug 25 04:23 UTC] No.44774067[source]▶
The statistic is almost funny to looking at, seeing SC at the top of the list with 40% more fatalities as the next state.

Germany only has no speed limits on some Autobahns. But you mostly end up in a Stau or Baustelle anyway, so it's not that exciting.

5. jdiff ◴[05 Aug 25 19:52 UTC] No.44803394[source]▶
There are many phrases, sentences, and concepts that don't generalize when you remove the facts at hand.