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Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

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1163 points DaveZale | 2 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.038s | source
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max_ ◴[02 Aug 25 19:46 UTC] No.44770751[source]▶
"More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h."

This is the only secret.

People over speeding is what kills.

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astura ◴[02 Aug 25 19:49 UTC] No.44770777[source]▶
For dumb Americans like me - that 18.641 miles/hr.
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Dig1t[dead post] ◴[02 Aug 25 19:53 UTC] No.44770819[source]▶
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sapiogram ◴[02 Aug 25 20:00 UTC] No.44770886[source]▶
Making drivers miserable is part of the intention, they want people to drive less because it's annoying as hell for everyone else.
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jmkni ◴[02 Aug 25 20:34 UTC] No.44771185[source]▶
That's fine if the public transport is up to scratch, as well as the cycling infrastructure.

Where I live it's woefully inadequate making driving the only viable option for most journeys.

This has a knock on effect of making cycling down right dangerous in places, because of all the cars + relatively high speed limits, like I wouldn't want to cycle from my house to work, it would be at best unpleasant, and I would be taking my life in my hands on some of the roads.

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CalRobert ◴[02 Aug 25 20:50 UTC] No.44771349[source]▶
Streets with low speeds are themselves decent bike infrastructure.
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jmkni ◴[02 Aug 25 21:07 UTC] No.44771484{3}[source]▶
If people actually stick to those speed limits.
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1. CalRobert ◴[02 Aug 25 21:25 UTC] No.44771673{4}[source]▶
Yeah, needs to be in the design instead of a dumb sign
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2. frosted-flakes ◴[03 Aug 25 00:01 UTC] No.44772849[source]▶
Good design is just that: de-sign. US roads have so. many. signs. Instead of just designing the roads and streets to not need signs in the first place.