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SilverElfin ◴[] No.44736599[source]
> More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h. Fifty years ago, the majority were limited to 50 km/h.

So they hurt quality of life by making it more painful to get anywhere, taking time away from everyone’s lives. You can achieve no traffic deaths by slowing everyone to a crawl. That doesn’t make it useful or good. The goal should be fast travel times and easy driving while also still reducing injuries, which newer safety technologies in cars will achieve.

> Cooperation between city officials and police has increased, with more automated speed enforcement

Mass surveillance under the ever present and weak excuse of “safety”.

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voxl ◴[] No.44738874[source]
Your argument is really "I'd rather people die then drive through your city slower."????
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1. lIl-IIIl ◴[] No.44770858[source]
I think the argument "I'd rather have a higher risk of dying than do this other unpleasant thing".

Which to be fair everyone does all the time (driving habits, eating habits, etc).

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2. gorbachev ◴[] No.44771121[source]
No, that's not correct.

It's: "I'd rather have other people have higher risk of dying than me having to do something I'd kinda of not want to do even though the inconvenience is minimal".

Me, me, me, me and me. Fuck the rest.

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3. lIl-IIIl ◴[] No.44793510[source]
I agree. I also think it's natural and something we do all the time.