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dakiol ◴[] No.44625484[source]
> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4

Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third party in order to keep programming. Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. I am afraid that in a few years, that will no longer be possible (as in most programmers will be so tied to a paid LLM, that not using them would be like not using an IDE or vim nowadays), since everyone is using private LLMs. The excuse "but you earn six figures, what' $200/month to you?" doesn't really capture the issue here.

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1. paulddraper ◴[] No.44629132[source]
And you thought Visual Studio was free?

Or Windows?

Or an Apple Developer License?

There are free/free-ish, options, but there have always been paid tools.

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2. asadotzler ◴[] No.44631358[source]
Paid tools were rarely monthly subscriptions without which you could not produce code or executables.

Further, I can write and compile an application for Mac, Windows, or Linux with entirely free tools including tools provided directly by Apple and Microsoft.

This discussion is about is a monthly subscription, without which, most up and coming coders, certainly "vibe coders," are completely dead in the water.

These two dependencies are not the same. If that's not obvious to you, I don't know what else to say to that.

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3. paulddraper ◴[] No.44635181[source]
You can write code with free tools.