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dakiol ◴[] No.44625484[source]
> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4

Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third party in order to keep programming. Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. I am afraid that in a few years, that will no longer be possible (as in most programmers will be so tied to a paid LLM, that not using them would be like not using an IDE or vim nowadays), since everyone is using private LLMs. The excuse "but you earn six figures, what' $200/month to you?" doesn't really capture the issue here.

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righthand ◴[] No.44625858[source]
It’s weird that programmers will champion paying for Llm but not ad-free web search.
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haiku2077 ◴[] No.44626168[source]
I pay for search and have convinced several of my collaborators to do so as well
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righthand ◴[] No.44626610[source]
I think the dev population mostly uses free search, just based on the fact no one has told me to “Kagi it” yet.
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haiku2077 ◴[] No.44626699[source]
When I need a facial tissue I ask for a Kleenex even if the box says Puffs. Because who says "pass me the Puffs"?
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martsa1 ◴[] No.44627578[source]
I've been curious of that phenomenon, why not juat ask "pass me a tissue?"
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1. righthand ◴[] No.44628773{3}[source]
Good old American brand loyalty.