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dakiol ◴[] No.44625484[source]
> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4

Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third party in order to keep programming. Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. I am afraid that in a few years, that will no longer be possible (as in most programmers will be so tied to a paid LLM, that not using them would be like not using an IDE or vim nowadays), since everyone is using private LLMs. The excuse "but you earn six figures, what' $200/month to you?" doesn't really capture the issue here.

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1. TacticalCoder ◴[] No.44627415[source]
I rely on these but there's zero loyalty. The moment something better is there, like when Gemini 2.5 Pro showed up, I immediately switch.

That's why I drink the whole tools kool-aid. From TFA:

> In this historical moment, LLMs are good amplifiers and bad one-man-band workers.

That's how I use them: write a function here, explain an error message there. I'm still in control.

I don't depend on LLMs: they just amplify.

I can pull the plug immediately and I'm still able to code, as I was two years ago.

Shall DeepSeek release a free SOTA model? I'll then use that model locally.

It's not because I use LLMs that I have a strong dependency on them.

Just like I was already using JetBrains' IntelliJ IDEA back when many here were still kids (and, yup, it was lightyears better than NetBeans and Eclipse) didn't make me have a strong dependency on JetBrains tools.

I'm back to Emacs and life is good: JetBrains IDEs didn't make me forget how to code, just as LLMs won't.

They're just throwaway tools and are to be regarded as such.