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dakiol ◴[] No.44625484[source]
> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4

Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third party in order to keep programming. Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. I am afraid that in a few years, that will no longer be possible (as in most programmers will be so tied to a paid LLM, that not using them would be like not using an IDE or vim nowadays), since everyone is using private LLMs. The excuse "but you earn six figures, what' $200/month to you?" doesn't really capture the issue here.

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cafp12 ◴[] No.44626014[source]
IMO It's not unlike all other "dev" tools we use at all. There are tons of free and open tools that usually lag a bit behind the paid versions. People pay for jetbrains, for mac os, and even to search the web (google ads).

You have very powerful open weight models, they are not the cutting edge. Even those you can't really run locally, so you'd have to pay a 3rd party to run it.

Also the competition is awesome to see, these companies are all trying hard to get customers and build the best model and driving prices down, and giving you options. No one company has all of the power, its great to see capitalism working.

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mirekrusin ◴[] No.44626255[source]
You don't pay for macOS, you pay for apple device, operating system is free.
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1. kgwgk ◴[] No.44626412[source]
You do pay for the operating system. And for future upgrades to the operating system. Revenue recognition is a complex and evolving issue.