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321 points distantprovince | 14 comments | | HN request time: 0.607s | source | bottom
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phito ◴[] No.44617442[source]
I really wish some of my coworkers would stop using LLMs to write me emails or even Teams messages. It does feel extremely rude, to the point I don't even want to read them anymore.
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1. moomoo11 ◴[] No.44618006[source]
Why? AI is a tool. Are their messages incorrect or something? If not who cares, they’re being efficient and thus more productive.

Please be honest. If it’s slop or they have incorrect information in the message, then my bad, stop reading here. Otherwise…

I really hope people like this with holier than thou attitude get filtered out. Fast.

People who don’t adapt to use new tools are some of the worst people to work around.

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2. distantprovince ◴[] No.44618563[source]
> If it’s slop or they have incorrect information in the message, then my bad, stop reading here.

"my bad" and what next? The reader just wasted time and focus on reading, it doesn't sound like a fair exchange.

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3. moomoo11 ◴[] No.44618757[source]
That’s on them, I said what I wanted to.

Most of the time people just like getting triggered that someone sent them a —— in their message and blame AI instead of adopting it into their workflows and moving faster.

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4. jaredcwhite ◴[] No.44619431[source]
If it took you no time to write it, I'll spend no time reading it.

The holier than thou people are the ones who are telling us genAI is inevitable, it's here to stay, we should use it as a matter of rote, we'll be left out if we don't, it's going to change everything, blah blah blah. These are articles of faith, and I'm sorry but I'm not a believer in the religion of AI.

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5. eric_cc ◴[] No.44619464[source]
How do you know the effort that went into the message? Somebody with writing challenges may have written the whole thing up and used ai assistance to help get a better outcome. They may have proof-read and revised the generated message. You sound very judgmental.
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6. jaredcwhite ◴[] No.44619527{3}[source]
And you sound very ableist. Why should we expect people who may have a cognitive disability of some kind to cloak that with technology, rather than us giving them the grace to communicate how they like on their terms?
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7. moomoo11 ◴[] No.44620374[source]
Good luck. If you're an employee remember that you are a expense line item :P
8. sfink ◴[] No.44620504[source]
They are being efficient with their own time, yes, but it's at the expense of mine. I get less signal. We used to bemoan how hard it was to effectively communicate via text only instead of in person. Now, rather than fixing that gap, we've moved on to removing even more of the signal. We have to infer the intentions of the sender by guessing what they fed into the LLM to avoid getting tricked by what the LLM incorrectly added or accentuated.

The overall impact on the system makes it much less efficient, despite all those "saving [their] time" by abusing LLMs.

9. sfink ◴[] No.44620516[source]
Except you will spend your time reading it, because that's what is required to figure out that it's written with an LLM. The first few times, at least...
10. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.44620812[source]
>Are their messages incorrect or something?

consider 3 scaenarios:

1. misinformation. This is the one you mention so I don't need to elaborate. 2. lack of understanding. The message may be about something they do not fully understand. If they cannot understand their own communication, then it's no longer a 2-way street. This is why AI-generated code in reviews is so infuriating. 3. Effort. Some people may use it to enhance their communication, but others use it as a shortcut. You shouldn't take a shortcut around actions like communicating with your coulleages. As a rising sentiment goes: "If it's not worth writing (yourself), it's not worth reading".

For your tool metaphor, it's like discovering supeglue. then using it to stick everything together. Sometimes you see a nail and instead glue the nail to the wall instead of hammering it in. Tools can, have, and will be misused. I think it's best to try and correct that early on before we have a lot of sticky nails.

11. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.44620834{3}[source]
Because often times you know the person behind the message. We don't existing in a vacumm and that will shape your reaction. So yes, I will give more leeway to a co-worker ESL leaning on AI than I will a director who is trying to give me a sloppy schedule that affects my navigation in the company.
12. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.44620848{3}[source]
That mentality is exactly what is reflected in AI messages: "not my problem I just need to get this over with".

Those types of coworkers tend to be a drain on not just productivity, but entire team morale. Someone who can't take responsibility or in worst cases have any sort of empathy. And tools are a force multiplier. It amplifies productivity, but that also means it amplifies this anchor behavior as well.

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13. moomoo11 ◴[] No.44621785{4}[source]
So I'm ESL btw... maybe I should have run my message through AI lol.

I was replying to THAT person, and my message was that IF the person they're dealing with who uses AI happens to be giving them constant slop (not ME!!! not my message) THEN ignore what I have to say in that message THEREAFTER.

So if that person is dealing with others who are giving them slop, and not just being triggered that it reads like GPT..

14. lucyjojo ◴[] No.44644131{4}[source]
because expecting people to be gracious goes against reality.