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Meta says it won't sign Europe AI agreement

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324 points rntn | 5 comments | 18 Jul 25 17:56 UTC | HN request time: 1.043s | source
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cakealert ◴[19 Jul 25 04:19 UTC] No.44612557[source]▶
EU regulations are sometimes able to bully the world into compliance (eg. cookies).

Usually minorities are able to impose "wins" on a majority when the price of compliance is lower than the price of defiance.

This is not the case with AI. The stakes are enormous. AI is full steam ahead and no one is getting in the way short of nuclear war.

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1. encom ◴[19 Jul 25 08:29 UTC] No.44613635[source]▶
The only thing the cookie law has accomplished for users, is pestering everyone with endless popups (full of dark patterns). WWW is pretty much unbearable to use without uBlock filtering that nonsense away. User tracking and fingerprinting has moved server side. Zero user privacy has been gained, because there's too much money to be made and the industry routed around this brain dead legislation.
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2. red_trumpet ◴[19 Jul 25 09:49 UTC] No.44614022[source]▶
> User tracking and fingerprinting has moved server side.

This smells like a misconception of the GDPR. The GDPR is not about cookies, it is about tracking. You are not allowed to track your users without consent, even if you do not use any cookies.

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3. whatevaa ◴[19 Jul 25 12:32 UTC] No.44614976[source]▶
Login is tracking, even when login is functional, not for tracking.

Laws are analyzed by lawyers and they will err on side of caution, so you end up with these notices.

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4. sublimefire ◴[19 Jul 25 18:01 UTC] No.44617784[source]▶
Well in my case I just do not use those websites with an enormous amount of “partners” anymore. Cookie legislation was great because it now shows you how many businesses are ad based, it added a lot of transparency. It is annoying only because you want the shit for free and it carries a lot of cookies usually. All of the businesses that do not track beyond the necessary do not have that issue with the cookie banners IMO. GDPR is great for users and not too difficult to implement. All of the stuff related to it where you can ask the company what data they hold about you is also awesome.
5. sublimefire ◴[19 Jul 25 18:08 UTC] No.44617856{3}[source]▶
Cookies and crossdomain tracking is slightly different to a login. Login would occur on one platform and would not track you when you go on to amazon or some porn site or read infowars. But crossdomain cookies do not need auth and they are everywhere because webmasters get paid for adding them, they track you everywhere.