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1. Retr0id ◴[] No.44572211[source]
Previously, a convenient and low-latency way to bypass UK internet censorship was to proxy via a local datacentre - it's only the residential ISPs that are under pressure to censor traffic, commercial ones less so.

But if the blocking is happening somewhere other than the ISP, this is less effective. A hypothetical TPB user might want to proxy via Luxembourg now (seems like the shortest hop to somewhere with sane legislation)

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2. trollied ◴[] No.44572305[source]
You didn’t even need to do that. Just needed an /etc/hosts entry for the domain.
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3. Retr0id ◴[] No.44572381[source]
My ISP (Virgin Media) does DNS filtering and IP-based blocking and TLS SNI inspection. So you have to use ESNI or domain fronting, which last time I checked my browser could not be easily configured to do.
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4. grishka ◴[] No.44572588{3}[source]
You may have some success with DPI bypass tools we've been using in Russia for years now, like GoodbyeDPI and Zapret.
5. arp242 ◴[] No.44572615{3}[source]
Is that common for all ISPs or just Virgin? When I lived in the UK (already a number of years ago) it was all just DNS-based. Running my own DNS resolver unblocked everything. I don't recall which ISP.
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6. Retr0id ◴[] No.44572708{4}[source]
I think it's just Virgin doing the SNI stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if others are doing IP filtering. I'm not sure if anyone's done a good survey of what the different ISPs are doing (it'd be an interesting project).
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7. doublerabbit ◴[] No.44573618{5}[source]
TalkTalk, Sky, BT & pretty much all domestic mainstream ISPs do DPI down to SNI.

They also exercise an IWF proxy so your already MiTM'd.

https://www.iwf.org.uk/

8. acheong08 ◴[] No.44574295{3}[source]
At this point, what's the difference between the UK and China other than the specific content they block? Some ISPs have even started blocking wireguard here & I've had to resort back to xray/v2ray
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9. Retr0id ◴[] No.44574468{4}[source]
Very little difference. But blocking wireguard is huge change, which ISPs are doing that?
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10. acheong08 ◴[] No.44577097{5}[source]
I currently live in student accommodation so not sure what they're using upstream. The university network also drops wireguard connections but only to known providers like Mullvad (assuming obfuscation is off)