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776 points rcchen | 5 comments | 11 Jul 25 21:35 UTC | HN request time: 1.839s | source
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dalemhurley ◴[11 Jul 25 22:24 UTC] No.44537376[source]▶
Cursor (and Garry Tan’s X post) has shown us that the VC money is propping up these companies astounding growth, the only way for them to become profitable is to increase the cost per a request, which means they need to innovate like crazy.

The moat is paper thin.

GitHub has open sourced copilot.

The open source community is working hard on their own projects.

No doubt Cursor is moving fast to create amazing innovations, but if the competition only focuses on thin wrappers they are not worth the billion dollar valuations.

I love watching this space as it is moving extremely fast.

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1. parthdesai ◴[12 Jul 25 00:53 UTC] No.44538331[source]▶
Gary gives off a grifter vibe to me. Such a shame seeing how YC has fallen
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2. sebmellen ◴[12 Jul 25 02:41 UTC] No.44538852[source]▶
He blocked me (a relative nobody) on X for remarking on the number of people I know who’ve made it to YC on completely fraudulent credentials.
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3. atakan_gurkan ◴[12 Jul 25 07:29 UTC] No.44540055[source]▶
His reaction seems entirely appropriate. He could ignore you, but then you might keep replying to his posts and potentially spread incorrect but damaging information. He is losing close to zero by blocking you, but preventing a potential big loss. Why did you make that remark, if not to damage YC's reputation? This does not seem like the correct approach, if you wanted to improve their selection process.
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4. samrus ◴[12 Jul 25 07:48 UTC] No.44540152{3}[source]▶
> Why did you make that remark, if not to damage YC's reputation?

Seems harsh and cultish to assume malice. He didnt say you parents have false credentials

I would say calling out people and institutions like that is important so as to keep them honest, and if they arent honest and are trying to grift/defraud people then they deserve the reputation loss

> He is losing close to zero by blocking you, but preventing a potential big loss.

Thats great for gary, but the rest of the world isnt there waiting to be optimized for his benefit. If people trust YC to incubate good talent, but feel its becoming a hub for grifters, then some accountability is in order. Institutions are beholden to their public stakeholders, even private institutions, because they still have people who are using and supporting them

5. raincole ◴[12 Jul 25 10:59 UTC] No.44541095{3}[source]▶
Well, incorrect or not, now that person has a very strong motivation to talk bad about YC. Smart "reaction."