Final report on Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 in-flight exit door plug separation

At the risk of overgeneralizing, more and more in modern life it feels as though we are all surrounded by people who are supposed to do their jobs right who don't, and people who are supposed to inspect their work who aren't inspecting, and people who are supposed to check the inspection process who aren't checking, and a legislative body who's supposed to regulate all the checking and double checking who aren't doing anything at all!

It's like vast swaths of people are just fooling around, collecting a paycheck, but aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing, and we're all just miraculously surviving our day-to-day because a bunch of denominators are very large numbers!

No, because some people still care and clean up enough after the slackers. The slackers also realize this and slack just enough for nothing major to happen often.

This is not true, when that many people stop doing their job it spreads like a virus and the ones that still stand for good either a) leave companies or b) become infected also.

They don't go against the grain. The people that do would have to have a constitution like no one you've met. Those people quit the moment covid-19 hit and they have since died or are just permanently retired.

I have worked in the medical devices industry as a software engineer for about 20 years at this point. As you would expect, it's a very process-heavy field. I've generally worked with careful, competent people who want to do a good job and process goes a long way towards facilitating that.

Every time I think about process though, I remember an editorial I read a long time ago about an engineer's experience in the aviation industry. He wasn't too thrilled about process. Instead, in his own words, "we were motivated by a very sincere desire to not kill anyone.

The counter-culture successfully demonized concepts like duty, personal accountability, and shame. A boy scout was to be mocked.

It’s because we are very good at getting smart people into high comp jobs so all these low remuneration jobs are pretty much idiots.

If they can avoid weed long enough to pass the drug tests, they’ll be playing Candy Crush on their phone when inspecting.

They just don’t have the mental horsepower. Like being upset a jellyfish didn’t discover calculus.

Patio11 calls this The Sort. I thought it was good name.

pay peanuts, get monkeys.

when you pay utter shit but the c-level earns many 100x the salary of the workers, of course they don't give a fuck.

> At the risk of overgeneralizing, more and more in modern life it feels as though we are all surrounded by people who are supposed to do their jobs right who don't

Meta observation - human society works by abstraction - leaky, and functional - not genuine understanding. Searle was wrong. There is no genuine understanding, only a web of abstractions that sometimes break.

Don't worry, the mainstream does this too while pretending to honor those values.

In general, people do what the organization providing their paycheck asks them to do. If their manager tells them to cut corners, they'll likely cut corners.

Some people are opposed to bureaucracy and will tend to try to undermine processes which are designed to prevent errors in production and execution. Organizational culture needs to be established and maintained, which aligns everyone toward the processes needed to maintain required standards.

The issue at Boeing wasn't due to slackers. It was a process issue due to cutting corners (management issue).

It's nothing to do with the counter culture. Boeing cut corners in order to save money. That's the long and the short of it.

At the end of the day people have to care about their job, for a reason bigger than getting a paycheck. Society can coast for awhile when people don't care but things eventually break down.

You can add process but the people running the process have to care. You can add regulation, but then the regulators have to care.

At the end of the day people have to care. And it really has to be everyone, because if one group cares and another doesn't, the one that cares will soon get disillusioned.

Caring alone is not sufficient. You do need process to catch mistakes. But process alone is also not sufficient.