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epja ◴[] No.44496563[source]
It's worth noting the BBC has also been accused of an anti-Israel bias including but not limited to airing a documentary produced by a Hamas linked individuals[1].

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07zz5937llo

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YZF[dead post] ◴[] No.44496629[source]
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1. forgotoldacc ◴[] No.44496780[source]
Wasn't it calling for death to a military force leading a campaign of total war, and not a death call against Israelis in general?

Like nobody would say "death to the Khmer Rouge" is a death call against Cambodians. It technically would be, since it was Cambodians in the Khmer Rouge who were killing innocent children, but it's a specific subset of Cambodians (the Khmer Rouge) and only those who were actually doing the killing.

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2. troad ◴[] No.44496898[source]
Yes, the coverage of this has been a weird one to watch.

How does this remark differ from what the Israeli government regularly says about the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, just as much an official body in Iran as the IDF is in Israel? No one, to my knowledge, would consider calling for the demise of the IRGC to be hate speech against Iranians. No one has ever shut off a live transmission of a Netanyahu speech because he advocated for violence against the IRGC.

(Not defending the IRGC here, they are ghouls. Just noting the intellectual dishonesty.)

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3. jakelazaroff ◴[] No.44497311[source]
They also regularly say there are no innocent Palestinians [1] [2] [3] [too many others to count] but weirdly it's not considered evidence of genocidal intent when Zionists say it!

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/israel-posts-video...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eICdhG1qgI

[3] https://mondoweiss.net/2025/07/poll-overwhelming-majority-of...

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4. YZF ◴[] No.44497328[source]
Nobody chants "death to the IRGC" in music festivals in Israel (or anywhere in Israel). Not to mention we're talking a third party here, the UK.

The Israeli government doesn't say "Death to the IRGC". Iran however regularly (like weekly) has massive crowds chanting "Death to the USA" and "death to Israel", stepping on and burning Israeli and American flags.

Israel consistently says they consider the Iranians their friends who are also oppressed by the regime. There are zero calls for death of anyone from Israel.

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5. YZF ◴[] No.44497392{3}[source]
A minority of Israelis do say this. It's not something shouted in a music festival e.g. The official position and policy of the IDF is that Israel does not target civilians. I would say the majority of Israelis do not agree with this statement. [EDIT: for clarity that there are no innocents in Gaza]

Not to justify but they (the minority) are partly referring to the complicity of random Palestinians in cheering and participating in parading hostages and dead bodies brought in from the Oct 7th attacks. Civilians that followed the militants on Oct 7th to pillage and kill. The general support Hamas has in the population, including for the Oct 7th attacks. The celebrations after the attack. Civilians involved in holding Israeli hostages (some/many of the Israeli hostages were held by civilians) and otherwise actively participating in the conflict.

Either way civilians should not be a target, regardless of the views they hold. Trying to draw a target on all civilians, is not ok. The statement that there are no innocents in Gaza (that's usually the framing) is also very obviously wrong. Even if a large number is Hamas and engages in the kinds of behavior described above it's certainly far from all. Many Palestinians are under death threats from Hamas as well.

This expression isn't at the same level of calling for their death (though "Death to Arabs" has been chanted by the Israeli right wing after e.g. terrorist attacks in the past). It's possible some Israelis use this to support more aggressive tactics but in general the official policy is that the IDF targets Hamas and not civilians. It's also different when these things come out of parties to the conflict vs. random third parties.

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8. troad ◴[] No.44498979{3}[source]
And Iran sponsors Jewish groups that are critical of the state of Israel. Both sides claim to be critical solely of the other's state, never the people. Sadly, neither side is credible in this, there's ample evidence of prejudice and hatred all round.
9. jakelazaroff ◴[] No.44499293{4}[source]
64% of Israelis is not a minority.