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pyman ◴[] No.44488595[source]
These are the people shaping the future of AI? What happened to all the ethical values they love to preach about?

We've held China accountable for counterfeiting products for decades and regulated their exports. So why should Anthropic be allowed to export their products and services after engaging in the same illegal activity?

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1. ffsm8 ◴[] No.44490938[source]
> We've held China accountable for counterfeiting products for decades and regulated their exports

We have? Are we from different multi-verses?

The one I've lived in to date has not done anything against Chinese counterfeits beyond occasionally seizing counterfeit goods during import. But that's merely occasionally enforcing local counterfeit law, a far cry from punishing the entity producing it.

As a matter of fact, the companies started outsourcing everything to China, making further IP theft and quasi-copies even easier

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2. Workaccount2 ◴[] No.44491027[source]
I was gonna say, the enforcement is so weak that it's not even really worth it to pursue consumer hardware here in the US. Make product that is a hit, patent it, and still 1 month later IYTUOP will be selling an identical copy for 1/3rd the price on Amazon.
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3. delfinom ◴[] No.44491280[source]
Patent enforcement requires the patent holder to go after violators. The said thing is, there are grounds to sue Amazon facilitating it, just nobody has had the money to do it. And no big company ever will because of the threat of being locked out of AWS.

It's quite the mafia operation over at Amazon.

4. janalsncm ◴[] No.44496010[source]
IP theft is one of the stated reasons for the trade war in the first place. It’s one of the major gripes the US has against China. There are limited means available to restrict a foreign country compared with an entity in the US. The DoJ did sue Huawei and win though.

Whether or not the countermeasures have been effective in practice is a minor detail in the GP point that we would not expect an American company headquartered in the US and conducting significant business in the US to get away with the same thing.