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Huawei cloned Qwen and DeepSeek models, claimed as own

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114 points dworks | 2 comments | 06 Jul 25 16:26 UTC | HN request time: 0.439s | source
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tengbretson ◴[06 Jul 25 16:42 UTC] No.44482169[source]▶
In the LLM intellectual property paradigm, I think this registers as a solid "Who cares?" level offence.
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some_random ◴[06 Jul 25 16:56 UTC] No.44482275[source]▶
Claiming to care deeply about IP theft in the more nebulous case of model training datasets then dismissing the extremely concrete case of outright theft seems pretty indefensible to me.
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Arainach ◴[06 Jul 25 17:09 UTC] No.44482381[source]▶
Everyone has a finite amount of empathy, and I'm not going to waste any of mine on IP thieves complaining that someone stole their stolen IP from them.
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1. mensetmanusman ◴[06 Jul 25 19:22 UTC] No.44483260[source]▶
It’s theft in the way taking a picture of nature that you had nothing to do with is theft.
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2. Arainach ◴[06 Jul 25 19:31 UTC] No.44483333[source]▶
This line of argument was worn out and tired when 14 year olds on Napster were parroting it in 1999.