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The force-feeding of AI features on an unwilling public

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451 points imartin2k | 19 comments | 06 Jul 25 06:19 UTC | HN request time: 2.007s | source | bottom
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dang ◴[06 Jul 25 12:45 UTC] No.44480332[source]▶
I also find these features annoying and useless and wish they would go away. But that's not because LLMs are useless, nor because the public isn't using them (as daishi55 pointed out here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44479578)

It's because the integrations with existing products are arbitrary and poorly thought through, the same way that software imposed by executive fiat in BigCo offices for trend-chasing reasons has always been.

petekoomen made this point recently in a creative way: AI Horseless Carriages - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43773813 - April 2025 (478 comments)

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1. CuriouslyC ◴[06 Jul 25 13:43 UTC] No.44480760[source]▶
I am a huge AI supporter, and use it extensively for coding, writing and most of my decision making processes, and I agree with you. The AI features in non-AI-first apps tend to be awkward bolt-ons, poorly thought out and using low quality models to save money.

I don't want shitty bolt-ons, I want to be able to give chatgtp/claude/gemini frontier models the ability to access my application data and make api calls for me to remotely drive tools.

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2. mpalmer ◴[06 Jul 25 14:34 UTC] No.44481143[source]▶
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3. jbreckmckye ◴[06 Jul 25 14:37 UTC] No.44481163{3}[source]▶
Xss3 is paraphrasing. As CuriouslyC wrote:

> "I am a huge AI supporter, and use it extensively for [...] most of my decision making processes"

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4. mpalmer ◴[06 Jul 25 14:43 UTC] No.44481205{4}[source]▶
It's not a paraphrase, it's a misreading.

How do you get outsourcing from this? Maybe they're using it to organize their thoughts, explore alternatives. Nowhere do they say they're not still making the decisions themselves.

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5. Xss3 ◴[06 Jul 25 14:47 UTC] No.44481226{5}[source]▶
Nowhere did i say that either. You are misreading.

I said decision making process, as did they.

Nobody said that they are letting the AI make the decisions.

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6. mpalmer ◴[06 Jul 25 14:49 UTC] No.44481246{6}[source]▶
"outsource"
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7. mpalmer ◴[06 Jul 25 14:57 UTC] No.44481294{8}[source]▶
Is it yours?

They use it for their decision making process.

When you use a pen for your writing processes, are you outsourcing the process of writing to the pen? Or are you using it?

When the first thing you say to a stranger is an insult, I wonder, is that a domestically-produced decision? Doesn't seem very high-quality.

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9. Xss3 ◴[06 Jul 25 15:06 UTC] No.44481363{9}[source]▶
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10. Avamander ◴[06 Jul 25 16:16 UTC] No.44481995[source]▶
> The AI features in non-AI-first apps tend to be awkward bolt-ons, poorly thought out and using low quality models to save money.

The weirdest location I've found the most useful LLM-based feature so far has been Edge with it's automatic tab grouping. It doesn't always pick the best groups and probably uses some really small model, but it's significantly faster and easier than anything that I've had so far.

I hope they do bookmarks next and that someone copies the feature and makes it use a local model (like Safari or Firefox, I don't even care).

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11. dang ◴[06 Jul 25 20:16 UTC] No.44483681[source]▶
Can you please stop posting flamebait comments and crossing into personal attack? Your account has unfortunately been doing this repeatedly, and we're trying for something else here.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

12. dang ◴[06 Jul 25 20:16 UTC] No.44483685{3}[source]▶
Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

13. i_love_retros ◴[07 Jul 25 03:10 UTC] No.44486387[source]▶
Was automatic tab grouping missing from your life?
14. i_love_retros ◴[07 Jul 25 03:15 UTC] No.44486428[source]▶
> I am a huge AI supporter, and use it extensively for coding, writing and most of my decision making processes

If you use it for writing, what is the point of writing in the first place? If you're writing to anyone you even slightly care about they should wipe their arse with it and send it back to you. And if it's writing at work or for work then you're just proving you are an employee they don't need.

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15. CuriouslyC ◴[07 Jul 25 11:15 UTC] No.44489015[source]▶
I just wiped my arse with your reply, here it is, enjoy.
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16. i_love_retros ◴[07 Jul 25 11:42 UTC] No.44489267{3}[source]▶
Did you have to brainstorm that response with chatgpt?
17. dmitrygr ◴[08 Jul 25 18:11 UTC] No.44502541[source]▶
> and most of my decision making processes

Jesus F christ, please tell me you are trolling

https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/

18. southernplaces7 ◴[08 Jul 25 18:16 UTC] No.44502570[source]▶
>and use it extensively for coding, writing and most of my decision making processes,

I'm curious, do you find it easier to climb stairs or inclines now that you've tossed your brain in the trash?

19. contextfree ◴[10 Jul 25 05:36 UTC] No.44517631[source]▶
I always thought there might be a place for some kind of ML in OS file save dialogs, to surface likely destination folders based on context.