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tkiolp4 ◴[] No.44417009[source]
Is anyone out there who feels sympathy for Elon? His public image is so damaged, I don’t think it can be recovered.
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RandomBacon ◴[] No.44417205[source]
You can feel sympathy for a person without agreeing with them or having the same viewpoints. I hope there are people out there that feel bad for another living being.

Edit: Yikes. Also, sympathy ≠ empathy.

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goku12 ◴[] No.44420272[source]
Does anybody feel sympathy for a terrorist? If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others who have or may fall prey to them. Your sympathy becomes selective and meaningless.

This might sound like a hyperbole, but the comparison to terrorism is relevant here. The DOGE cuts have a cost in terms of human lives. I have no conclusive sources to show for it, but some estimates put it at 300K till date. Even Bill Gates criticized it. And Elon laughed and scoffed at it when he was asked about it. Drugs are not an excuse for any of it, since it was his choice and nobody's addiction should cause the deaths of thousands. Frankly, the greed of billionaires seem to have a bigger cost in terms of suffering and lives than even terrorists do. So please stop giving these humans devoid of any empathy, the benefit of your humanity.

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RandomBacon ◴[] No.44422225[source]
> Does anybody feel sympathy for a terrorist? If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others who have or may fall prey to them. Your sympathy becomes selective and meaningless.

You can have sympathy for both. It's not one or the other.

> So please stop giving these humans devoid of any empathy, the benefit of your humanity.

I sympathize for you. I hope that you're willing to open up your mind and be open to the idea that everyone deserves humanity.

Hitler decided some people should be treated with humanity and others not. I imagine if you asked Hitler, he would have said the Jewish people were devoid of any empathy. I think we're above that, right?

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It seems that for a lot of people, politics is more important than having humanity for other people. I wonder why that is.

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1. goku12 ◴[] No.44436161[source]
> You can have sympathy for both. It's not one or the other.

Not so when a privileged minority inflicts staggering amount of suffering on a large population. Sympathy towards them is a luxury that's at odds with the dignity and survival of the ordinary people.

> I sympathize for you.

Please spare me!

> I hope that you're willing to open up your mind and be open to the idea that everyone deserves humanity.

It's your own duty to protect your humanity against corruption by the absolute power you wield. How many of these bad actors were spared prison sentences simply on account of being rich? How much were they emboldened each time they evaded justice?

> I imagine if you asked Hitler, he would have said the Jewish people were devoid of any empathy. I think we're above that, right?

Don't misconstrue justice with bigotry. Hitler deliberately projected the Jews as enemies in order to suppress sympathy and agency among his subjects. According to your logic, he should be shown sympathy regardless. Yet, his death in one of the countless assassination attempts against him would have been a small price to pay for the hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives that could have been saved.

> It seems that for a lot of people, politics is more important than having humanity for other people. I wonder why that is.

That's not surprising at all. It's so because you insert politics into matters where there are none.

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2. RandomBacon ◴[] No.44446514[source]
You're comment doesn't seem to make much sense. It does appear that you have some deep-rooted anger. Our philosophies are obviously different, and commenting here doesn't seem like it's going to get us on common ground.