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Is anyone out there who feels sympathy for Elon? His public image is so damaged, I don’t think it can be recovered.

You can feel sympathy for a person without agreeing with them or having the same viewpoints. I hope there are people out there that feel bad for another living being.

Edit: Yikes. Also, sympathy ≠ empathy.

He threw that out so fast. It's pretty impressive.

He thought he had Trump in his pocket and didn't need to pretend any more.

Also drugs.

Not much, I guess. His bad behavior goes back a long way, and has hurt many people around him. He used to lie publicly about his first child having died in his arms, when it was the mother's, just to provide a stark example.

He has enough bills to wipe his tears away with, unlike others.

I suspect some of the more recent behavior is attributable to or influenced by drug use, and I feel some sympathy for anyone who comes under their thrall.

Elon taught us that empathy is weakness. One needs empathy to have sympathy for the fellow man.

Therefore, let's honor Elon's words and rejoice at his misfortune.

I do not think we can blame the nazi stuff on drugs. He seems to have a family history of this.

For anyone wondering, he literally said that the empathy response is “a bug in Western civilization”: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/05/politics/elon-musk-rogan-...

Instead of worrying about the richest man in the world, feel sympathy for the people actively dying from his “wood chipper” tactics: https://archive.is/25XCC

Does anybody feel sympathy for a terrorist? If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others who have or may fall prey to them. Your sympathy becomes selective and meaningless.

This might sound like a hyperbole, but the comparison to terrorism is relevant here. The DOGE cuts have a cost in terms of human lives. I have no conclusive sources to show for it, but some estimates put it at 300K till date. Even Bill Gates criticized it. And Elon laughed and scoffed at it when he was asked about it. Drugs are not an excuse for any of it, since it was his choice and nobody's addiction should cause the deaths of thousands. Frankly, the greed of billionaires seem to have a bigger cost in terms of suffering and lives than even terrorists do. So please stop giving these humans devoid of any empathy, the benefit of your humanity.

I mean, that's not something that just happened, it's something that he did. Hard to feel too much sympathy, tbh.

I mean frankly the vast majority of drug addicts don't come across as _remotely_ this deranged.

> Does anybody feel sympathy for a terrorist? If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others who have or may fall prey to them. Your sympathy becomes selective and meaningless.

You can have sympathy for both. It's not one or the other.

> So please stop giving these humans devoid of any empathy, the benefit of your humanity.

I sympathize for you. I hope that you're willing to open up your mind and be open to the idea that everyone deserves humanity.

Hitler decided some people should be treated with humanity and others not. I imagine if you asked Hitler, he would have said the Jewish people were devoid of any empathy. I think we're above that, right?

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It seems that for a lot of people, politics is more important than having humanity for other people. I wonder why that is.

The irony is the Nazis also had a issue with drugs (amphetamines?).

>If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others

What this means is an incomplete understanding of sympathy / empathy. These feeling don't need to pick sides. And they don't have to influence outcomes either - even feeling these feelings, you can come to the conclusion that you don't want to associate with, or support that person at all. Or even speak out against them, or do anything else. You are free to do all that, and it's not a contradiction. Quite the opposite, not doing that is to artificially restrict natural human expression.

Also, you don't have to feel sympathy / empathy, and that is okay as well. Others might, and that is just as valid. Either of them telling the other that they are wrong, and should or should not feel it, is now wrong. Feeling something about it, and voicing that, is not wrong though again.

> You can have sympathy for both. It's not one or the other.

Not so when a privileged minority inflicts staggering amount of suffering on a large population. Sympathy towards them is a luxury that's at odds with the dignity and survival of the ordinary people.

> I sympathize for you.

Please spare me!

> I hope that you're willing to open up your mind and be open to the idea that everyone deserves humanity.

It's your own duty to protect your humanity against corruption by the absolute power you wield. How many of these bad actors were spared prison sentences simply on account of being rich? How much were they emboldened each time they evaded justice?

> I imagine if you asked Hitler, he would have said the Jewish people were devoid of any empathy. I think we're above that, right?

Don't misconstrue justice with bigotry. Hitler deliberately projected the Jews as enemies in order to suppress sympathy and agency among his subjects. According to your logic, he should be shown sympathy regardless. Yet, his death in one of the countless assassination attempts against him would have been a small price to pay for the hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives that could have been saved.

> It seems that for a lot of people, politics is more important than having humanity for other people. I wonder why that is.

That's not surprising at all. It's so because you insert politics into matters where there are none.

You're comment doesn't seem to make much sense. It does appear that you have some deep-rooted anger. Our philosophies are obviously different, and commenting here doesn't seem like it's going to get us on common ground.

That isn't irony.