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    1. rozab ◴[] No.44414734[source]
    I just wrote a reply to a comment talking about the AI tells this writing has, but it got flagged so my comment disappeared when I hit post. I'll rephrase out of spite:

    My first thought upon reading this was that an LLM had been instructed to add a pithy meme joke to each paragraph. They don't make sense in context, and while some terminally online people do speak in memes, those people aren't quoting doge in 2025.

    There's also a sense of incoherence in the whole piece. For instance, this section:

    "- after: 22 million videos + 1 million images (now we're talking)

    they basically hoovered up everything: something-something v2, kinetics, howto100m, and a billion youtube videos"

    Was it a billion vids or 22m? It turns out the latter sentence is just rephrasing the list of sources in a cool casual way, and the last one is called YT-Temporal-1B. That's a billion frames of video, not a billion videos.

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    2. billstar ◴[] No.44418463[source]
    Also, the author of the blog "Ksagar Atharva" doesn't appear anywhere in the list of authors on the linked FB research paper with Yann LeCun as a co-author. Unless the blog author is using a heavily modified pseudonym.

    The research is very real but the blog post appears to be very fake.

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    3. xdfgh1112 ◴[] No.44418604[source]
    It's someone explaining the research as a blog essay right? Which is very commonly done. We=humanity
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    5. SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.44419342[source]
    > some terminally online people do speak in memes, those people aren't quoting doge in 2025.

    You may be surprised to find out how incorrect this.

    I can think of two popular conservative sites likely to quote Doge people off hand that do this. I read all news in order not be an insufferable ideologue. So again, off the top of my head, NotTheBee (I think affiliated to BabylonBee (conservative The Onion)) and Twitchy. Among YouTubers, I think Asmond Gold, and I’m sure others like Steven Crowder who himself is in a famous meme.

    That said… yea, you are probably right.

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    6. tomrod ◴[] No.44419545[source]
    Aren't those sites primarily Russian bots tho?
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    7. HeartStrings ◴[] No.44419612[source]
    Yeah, obviously LLM written. They tried to be unique by removing capitals.
    8. mid-kid ◴[] No.44419655[source]
    Not conservative but I used to love the meme before it was co-opted by musk, so I will occasionally use it as a "haha now you feel OLD" without thinking of its modern connotations.
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    9. Kiro ◴[] No.44419805{3}[source]
    Exactly. It's very obvious what "we" is referring to here.
    10. pjerem ◴[] No.44419862{3}[source]
    Also I think it’s somehow important to not let fascism steal our cultural heritage, even if it’s just a meme.

    In my country, far righters are displaying the country’s flag everywhere. Now you can’t display a French flag without being thought as a far right person. That’s honestly insufferable.

    I know it’s less important with doge but still : before being a crypto it was just a picture of an overly innocent and enthusiastic dog. And even when it became a little crypto, it was totally assumed that it was a meme coin and wasn’t meant for speculation, the idea was that 1DOGE = 1DOGE only and people gifted them to other people who made nice contributions on the internet.

    Musk broke all of this when it started to use it to do gigantic pumps and dumps using his own visibility on Twitter.

    We don’t have to let fascism steal all the popular symbols / memes, because they will steal them anyway.

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    11. mlinhares ◴[] No.44419895{3}[source]
    Isn’t that just a synonym for conservative?
    12. Thorrez ◴[] No.44420681[source]
    >those people aren't quoting doge in 2025

    Could you explain what this means? Is this article quoting doge?

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    13. wincy ◴[] No.44420757[source]
    I don’t know, 400k people are listening to the White House streaming lo-fi hip hop on X right now with cutesy videos of Trump on one side and his executive orders streaming on the other at 4am. I think there’s plenty of people quoting doge in 2025.

    If you’re in the US, you likely work with them and they have learned to studiously avoid talking about politics except in vagaries to avoid conflict.

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    14. debugnik ◴[] No.44420800[source]
    There was a clear attempt at the doge meme format, yes:

    > very scientific. much engineering.

    Emphasis on attempt because you're supposed to use words with grammatically incorrect modifiers, and the first one doesn't. (Even the second one doesn't seem entirely incorrect to me? I'm not a native speaker though.) "many scientific, so engineering" for example would have worked.

    I assume they, or most likely their LLM, tried too hard to follow the most popular sequence (very, much, wow) and failed at it.

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    15. foxglacier ◴[] No.44420903{4}[source]
    Lets see you try to recover the swastika from fascism ;)
    16. shubb ◴[] No.44420979{3}[source]
    "Much engineering was required" Archaic but still used a bit in articles or to give a certain vibe.
    17. roveo ◴[] No.44421442[source]
    I'm using eigenrobot's (X user) prompt for ChatGPT and the style is very recognizable. Everything lowercase, tone, zoomer abbreviations, esotheric style of jokes.
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    18. jojobas ◴[] No.44421658{3}[source]
    You'd think it would be easy to write "very engineering, much scientific". LLMs work in mysterious ways.
    19. bazhova ◴[] No.44421737[source]
    they are referring to doge the dog meme, not the government initiative. The meme is much older and wouldn't be considered "cool" to use by the same people who write in the style of the article. Which indicates it was written by an LLM, because usually only things like ChatGPT throw in such cringe, out of date memes in an otherwise obnoxiously 2025 article
    20. bazhova ◴[] No.44421773[source]
    They are referring to the original doge meme of the dog, not the government initiative today. I guess "quote" isn't really the right word, more like "doing"
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    22. bjornarv ◴[] No.44423022[source]
    yup
    23. YeGoblynQueenne ◴[] No.44426050[source]
    >> They don't make sense in context, and while some terminally online people do speak in memes, those people aren't quoting doge in 2025.

    Cringely, they are. Nobody who isn't desperate to appear cool would write in that terminally grating register, including when using an LLM to do the writing.

    24. YeGoblynQueenne ◴[] No.44426084{3}[source]
    A reoccurring mistake in this thread. I blame Elon Musk and his boomer humer.