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1. Dumblydorr ◴[] No.44409135[source]
Most musicians who can make it now are only middle class, with a handful of superstars and a huge legion of poor artists.

I’ve played many gigs for $20-100, which is once a month or week and tough work relative to typing some code from home. I played for 25 mins in front of 1000 people and spent 8+ hours total all-in to make 200 bucks. Way harder money than coding.

Really, think back through history. Musicians were needed for dance, parties, all occasions. Now hit play on your phone connected to a speaker, GG musicians.

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2. bamboozled ◴[] No.44410313[source]
Now hit play on your phone connected to a speaker, GG musicians.

Not really comparable experience though.

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3. nine_k ◴[] No.44410455[source]
Comparable, though very much not equal. Unless you came specifically to listen to music (e.g. many concerts), the music plays a technical role: dance music, movie soundtrack, restaurant / bar background music. For that, a good recording is adequate or even superior.
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4. galkk ◴[] No.44410758[source]
To some extent it is much better.

More reliable, no divas, no drunk musicians, always on time, the repertoire is literally unlimited.

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5. LtWorf ◴[] No.44411274[source]
On the other hand busking in a street (which I regard as open source music, donations accepted) makes way more money than releasing an open source project and having tens of thousands use it daily.
6. LtWorf ◴[] No.44411284{3}[source]
Compare dating to buying onlyfans…
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7. magicalhippo ◴[] No.44412506[source]
> I played for 25 mins in front of 1000 people and spent 8+ hours total all-in to make 200 bucks.

Perhaps a bit cynical, but my thinking has long been that if I see a band that's playing in a venue that takes like 100-200 people or so[1], they're doing it out of passion. And that immediately makes it more interesting for me to go.

I've had lots of great experiences that way, including for bands that's normally way outside my comfort zone. And as the price of admission is fairly low, if it somehow is a miss it's not a big deal.

Now, as I know they're making little or no money on the gig itself, I usually end up buying some merch.

[1]: I'm in Norway, we don't have a ton of large venues.

8. kupfer ◴[] No.44412642{4}[source]
"Strip club visit to onlyfans" is more apt
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9. BeFlatXIII ◴[] No.44412700[source]
> Really, think back through history. Musicians were needed for dance, parties, all occasions. Now hit play on your phone connected to a speaker, GG musicians.

John Philip Sousa had the right opinion on recorded music.

10. spacemadness ◴[] No.44414662{3}[source]
This reminds me of the guy that told me he didn’t need to travel anywhere because the internet exists and people already write about it and leave pictures. This was in the 90s. Not the same obviously. And I agree that crowds can be super annoying sometimes. And it obviously depends on the context of the type of music created, etc. But in your nicely controlled environment you can miss out on spontaneity or energy that can’t be replaced.
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11. LtWorf ◴[] No.44415963{5}[source]
Nah in small enough venues you sit down and have a beer with the musicians :D
12. bamboozled ◴[] No.44420414{4}[source]
That's a wonderful analogy...
13. bamboozled ◴[] No.44420419{3}[source]
Yeah, I love going to a bar or nice restaurant and listening to the same recording of Take Five or Kind of Blue, over and over and over and over and over again with zero variation throughout my life. It's amazing.