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picardo ◴[] No.44377037[source]
I'd be interested to see an update to this study in the coming years. Starbucks has been pivoting towards take out and mobile orders and removing tables and chairs entirely from some of its stores lately.
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yesfitz ◴[] No.44379128[source]
They had been!

But in 2024, Brian Niccols pitched the "Back to Starbucks" plan, with point 3 of his 4 point focus being, "Reestablishing Starbucks as the community coffeehouse."[1] He said, "Our stores will be inviting places to linger, with comfortable seating, thoughtful design and a clear distinction between “to-go” and “for-here” service."

Whether or not that's working is another story[2]. Long story short is that Scooters, Dutch Bros. and other brands are doing drive-thru better, and cafe attendance is down 22% since before the pandemic.

Consumer tastes have shifted. And given Gen Z's preference for online interaction over in-person, I'm not sure if Starbucks will be able to steer the ship.

If I were Starbucks, I'd strongly consider splitting the branding on the cafes and drive-thrus. Keep the Starbucks brand with the drive-thrus, then try opening a few new cafes as a new brand. Worst case scenario, you rebrand those cafes as Starbucks. I bet they've talked about it.

1: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/new-starbucks-ceo-brian-nicc... 2: https://intelligence.coffee/2025/05/back-to-starbucks-long-o...

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1. ghaff ◴[] No.44392861[source]
There is definitely a split in coffeehouses. You see all the coffeehouses that have all the laptops open. (If maybe less active socializing.) And then you have the drive-through lines for lattes around the block. Not sure how you reconcile. Could block WiFi but then I imagine a lot of people would just use their phones. (Or skip.)

There maybe is an old European style of coffeehouses but nut sure that's been hit on beyond a very local level.