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theandrewbailey ◴[26 Jun 25 10:24 UTC] No.44385950[source]▶
I didn't think that I would be happy that I run de-googled Android so soon.
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attendant3446 ◴[26 Jun 25 14:27 UTC] No.44387777[source]▶
The only problem (at least for me) with de-googled Android is banking, at least where I live. You either can get an account in a bank where everything is done in person or by fax :|, or fully mobile bank that doesn't work without an app.

Well, it's not a big problem, because most of the bank apps still work, but they rely heavily on Google Play Services. It can partially be solved with a separate profile and Graphene's sandboxed Google Play Services, but still a bit annoying :(

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mindslight ◴[26 Jun 25 15:26 UTC] No.44388339[source]▶
First, banks generally have websites. Second, if the website sucks and your prefer the app (happens plenty), get a second older device that isn't de-googled and stays at home. There is no need to put all your eggs in one basket.
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fluidcruft ◴[26 Jun 25 18:28 UTC] No.44389978[source]▶
Many banks use their apps as biometric 2FA for website login nowadays.
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marssaxman ◴[26 Jun 25 20:25 UTC] No.44390953[source]▶
You make me glad I only use credit unions.
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fluidcruft ◴[26 Jun 25 20:51 UTC] No.44391222[source]▶
Honestly I appreciate these features.
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1. marssaxman ◴[26 Jun 25 21:27 UTC] No.44391611[source]▶
What are they doing that benefits you?
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2. fluidcruft ◴[26 Jun 25 23:46 UTC] No.44392573[source]▶
For one, it integrates Google Wallet and creates a virtual card so the actual credit card number doesn't end up in those merchant databases that get constantly breached. This ties the credit card number to use of the secure element in my phone which is configured to require biometrics to activate. That makes it extremely difficult to fradulently bill. Yes, you can fight fraudulent charges etc but that costs me time and effort and to be it's a no brainer.

I also like the convenience of using Google Wallet to pay for things. It's by far the fastest transaction and easier than futzing around with chip cards and pins. It's also more secure than the dumb tap to pay bullshit in credit cards themselves which do not require biometrics or pins. (Currently my main card is too old to include tap to pay, so I don't have to worry about how to disable it yet). Just generally Google Wallet is more secure than chip+pin while also being much easier to use and not having to trust some random keypad.

It's also nice to not even have to carry a wallet around. I'm not fully there yet (Apple supports my state's drivers license but Google Wallet support isn't ready yet). Phone is obviously something I take with me, it just makes wallet so vestigial since Apple Pay/Google Wallet support is becoming very ubiquitous.

My banks have also implemented 2FA login by just push notification so no typing number or such tedious stuff. Unlock my phone, pass biometrics and done.

There are more but those are just the first things that come to mind.