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1342 points sync | 12 comments | 25 Jun 25 13:10 UTC | HN request time: 0.002s | source | bottom
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iandanforth ◴[25 Jun 25 13:37 UTC] No.44377207[source]▶
I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!
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diegof79 ◴[25 Jun 25 15:43 UTC] No.44378591[source]▶
Google suffers from Microsoft's issues: it has products for almost everything, but its confusing product messaging dilutes all the good things it does.

I like Gemini 2.5 Pro, too, and recently, I tried different AI products (including the Gemini Pro plan) because I wanted a good AI chat assistant for everyday use. But I also wanted to reduce my spending and have fewer subscriptions.

The Gemini Pro subscription is included with Google One, which is very convenient if you use Google Drive. But I already have an iCloud subscription tightly integrated with iOS, so switching to Drive and losing access to other iCloud functionality (like passwords) wasn’t in my plans.

Then there is the Gemini chat UI, which is light years behind the OpenAI ChatGPT client for macOS.

NotebookLM is good at summarizing documents, but the experience isn’t integrated with the Gemini chat, so it’s like constantly switching between Google products without a good integrated experience.

The result is that I end up paying a subscription to Raycast AI because the chat app is very well integrated with other Raycast functions, and I can try out models. I don’t get the latest model immediately, but it has an integrated experience with my workflow.

My point in this long description is that by being spread across many products, Google is losing on the UX side compared to OpenAI (for general tasks) or Anthropic (for coding). In just a few months, Google tried to catch up with v0 (Google Stitch), GH Copilot/Cursor (with that half-baked VSCode plugin), and now Claude Code. But all the attempts look like side-projects that will be killed soon.

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krferriter ◴[25 Jun 25 18:25 UTC] No.44380394[source]▶
I subscribed to Google One through the Google Photos iOS app because I wanted photos I took on my iPhone to be backed up to Google. When I switched to Android and went into Google One to increase my storage capacity in my Google account, I found that it was literally impossible, because the subscription was tied to my iCloud account. I even got on a line with Google Support about it and they told me yeah it's not even possible on their side to disconnect my Google One subscription from Apple. I had to wait for the iCloud subscription to Google One to end, and then I was able to go into Google One and increase my storage capacity.
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bilalq ◴[25 Jun 25 18:56 UTC] No.44380722[source]▶
The root problem here lies with Apple. It's so frustrating how they take a 30% cut for the privilege of being unable to actually have a relationship with your customers. Want to do a partial refund (or a refund at all)? Want to give one month free to an existing subscriber? Tough luck. Your users are Apple's customers, not yours.
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Traubenfuchs ◴[26 Jun 25 04:39 UTC] No.44384230[source]▶
I love Apple subscriptions.

No way for you to scam me or make it hard ro cancel. I can view them all in the apple account subscription view.

No tricks, no unexpected behaviour.

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1. rvnx ◴[26 Jun 25 07:29 UTC] No.44385067{3}[source]▶
Same with Stripe, minus the 30% fee. Even better, if you accidentally let the renewal happen they will instantly refund in one-click.
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2. bloppe ◴[26 Jun 25 08:16 UTC] No.44385293[source]▶
This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.
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3. lofijeff ◴[26 Jun 25 08:44 UTC] No.44385454[source]▶
This IS the free market ya dingus.
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4. skinnymuch ◴[26 Jun 25 08:48 UTC] No.44385477[source]▶
That is the free market. That is why libertarians love the free market.
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5. Traubenfuchs ◴[26 Jun 25 09:20 UTC] No.44385621[source]▶
Managing subscriptions in the apple account view, on stripe, on paypal and on whatever other platform wants their cut? No thanks.
6. bloppe ◴[26 Jun 25 09:23 UTC] No.44385634{3}[source]▶
It's not a free market without meaningful choice.

You can't say a slave is free because their master is free to enslave them, and they're free to escape if they can. Sometimes you need rules to create real freedom.

7. Traubenfuchs ◴[26 Jun 25 09:24 UTC] No.44385641[source]▶
But the only way to have it centralized is to have it integrated in iOS.

Stripe already is a second place, non centralized, off platform.

I don't want to hunt down my predatory subscriptions in multiple places.

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8. gtufano ◴[26 Jun 25 09:24 UTC] No.44385645[source]▶
Yeah, technically. But just everyone _normal_ just pays using Stripe often without even knowing about it. On the _walled garden_ all is so clear that my 70 years aunt is able to do it. And there is no exceptions to the rule: every subscription made through the App Store is there and it's cancellable...

30% is a robbery, and the confusion on the customer "ownership" is true, but it's not useful for the discussion to negate the advantage the _garden_ offers to the basic consumer

9. calessian ◴[26 Jun 25 10:11 UTC] No.44385888[source]▶
How the platform and the vendor split that money is irrelevant to me, and I’m not convinced this would become cheaper - evidently consumers are willing to pay the current price, so why wouldn’t the vendor just increase their profit?

In the same vein: Games don’t cost less on the epic store despite their lower (compared to Steam) either, so as an end user it makes no difference where I buy games.

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10. bloppe ◴[26 Jun 25 16:15 UTC] No.44388802{3}[source]▶
Why do you think that's the only way? Payment processors have long been able to differentiate recurring transactions from one-offs. Capital One has subscription management.
11. bloppe ◴[26 Jun 25 16:42 UTC] No.44389025{3}[source]▶
https://expertbeacon.com/why-epic-games-is-cheaper-than-stea...

Maybe you like paying an extra 20%. That's your business. But fees like that affect the viability of lots of business ideas, including games. Having lower fees increases the pool of indie games.

12. bloppe ◴[26 Jun 25 16:51 UTC] No.44389110{3}[source]▶
Idk if you just have a bone to pick with libertarians, but monopolized markets by definition are not free markets, regardless of how they arise