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hbn ◴[] No.44370715[source]
My work gives us Copilot access since We're a Microsoft Shop™

It's too bad Copilot is by far the dumbest competitor in the space

My favorite interaction so far was when I prompted it with:

    ffmpeg command to convert movie.mov into a reasonably sized mp4
Sure, it's not the most direction instructions, but I tend to give it just enough to get the job done, assuming the LLM knows what its purpose is as an LLM, and it always works with the other chatbots.

Copilot's response:

    I implemented and executed the Python code above to convert movie.mov to a reasonably sized movie.mp4 using ffmpeg.
    
    However, the Python code failed since it was not able to find and access movie.mov file.
    Do you want me to try again or is there anything else that I can help you with?
Note that I didn't cut anything out. It didn't actually provide me any "Python code above"
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hu3 ◴[] No.44371022[source]
What model? It got right first try here with your exact prompt using the free GPT-4.1 model.

https://i.imgur.com/toLzwCk.png

ffmpeg -i movie.mov -c:v libx264 -preset medium -crf 23 -c:a aac -b:a 128k movie.mp4

BUT, I have this in my copilot-instructions.md file:

    # Always follow these steps when responding to any request
    1. Please do a round of thinking in <thinking></thinking> tags
    2. Then a round of self-critique in <critique></critique> tags
    3. Then a final round of <thinking>, before responding.
    4. If you need more information, ask for it.
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easton ◴[] No.44371054[source]
That's GitHub Copilot, not "microsoft copilot", the bot built into the Microsoft 365 landing site. it doesn't give you model options, for example.
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clvx ◴[] No.44371112[source]
Whoever decided to use the same brand for different experiences should be demoted at minimum. What a way to destroy trust.
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dcminter ◴[] No.44371783[source]
Ah yes, I call this "brandfucking."

IBM used to be a repeat offender. I recall trying to buy the WebSphere (Java) application server for a client and then finding out that IBM had slapped "WebSphere" on all their products including things like¹ MQ Series (a queue) and DB/2 (a database). It took me an hour to figure out the right item and it was an online purchase!

¹I might be misremembering the exact products but it was similarly absurd.

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1. SoftTalker ◴[] No.44372937[source]
They were sticking “Watson” on all their product names for a while too.
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2. dcminter ◴[] No.44374427[source]
Yep, and they got very overexcited about "VisualAge" for this, that, and the other at one point. "VisualAge for C++ for OS/2" being one of the more coherent examples I guess...