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    1. moonshot5 ◴[] No.44364547[source]
    For zsh users who like this idea and don't want to have to worry about anything leaving the device (not to insinuate that Atuin is doing anything below board, I don't think they are) I built my own version of this for myself called raven:

    https://github.com/tylersaunders/raven

    Raven has no sync component, stores your history in a sqlite, and never tries to move data off the device. It has a similar / large overlap in features with Atuin.

    Sharing here in case anyone else could benefit from it, it only supports zsh for the moment since that's what I use.

    Atuin is great though!

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    2. shawabawa3 ◴[] No.44364554[source]
    you could just disable sync in atuin
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    3. tledakis ◴[] No.44364569[source]
    For people OK with syncing to their own server, Atuin can be self-hosted as well

    https://docs.atuin.sh/self-hosting/server-setup/

    4. ellieh ◴[] No.44364574[source]
    our sync is opt-in + optional, e2e encrypted, and self-hostable.

    if that's not enough, you can disable all network features via a feature flag at compile time

    if you don't care for sync, there are a bunch of other projects doing this (and supporting several shells), eg:

    - mcfly: https://github.com/cantino/mcfly

    - resh: https://github.com/curusarn/resh

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    5. nidnogg ◴[] No.44364848[source]
    this is my only quip with atuin, despite my endorsement in a sibling comment. this should absolutely be opted-out BY DEFAULT. not defaulted to opt-in.

    if you have someone outright cloning your entire project just to skip this opted-in privacy gap feature, it's a good indicator it's an issue to be mindful of!

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    6. phaer ◴[] No.44364869{3}[source]
    I think you might be mixing them up?

    Opt-in means that the user needs to actively decide to use the feature, it's OFF by default. That's currently the case for atuin (happy user without sync here).

    Opt-out would mean the feature would be ON by default and users would need to actively decide NOT to use it.

    7. ellieh ◴[] No.44364873{3}[source]
    You actually have to go and register an account or log in for sync to happen at all

    Otherwise it’s offline, by default, right after install

    8. fluidcruft ◴[] No.44364879{3}[source]
    Isn't it off by default? That's what opt-in means as far as I know.
    9. phaer ◴[] No.44364884[source]
    You could also just not enable it. It's off by default
    10. electromech ◴[] No.44365180[source]
    I am happy Atuin user now, but I was initially worried that it would sync my data unless I explicitly disabled that feature. The fact that it's opt-in becomes clear once you read the docs and understand how it works, but it might be worth emphasizing that on the landing page. Currently it says:

        Shell history sync
        Sync your shell history to all of your machines, wherever they are
    
    In any case, thanks for building a great tool!
    11. yjftsjthsd-h ◴[] No.44367099[source]
    > if that's not enough, you can disable all network features via a feature flag at compile time

    Are there network features other than sync?