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uv: An extremely fast Python package and project manager, written in Rust

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741 points chirau | 14 comments | 23 Jun 25 16:27 UTC | HN request time: 1.35s | source | bottom
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theLiminator ◴[23 Jun 25 17:43 UTC] No.44358222[source]▶
uv and ruff are a great counterexample to all those people who say "never reinvent the wheel". Don't ever do it just for the sake of doing it, but if you have focused goals you can sometimes produce a product that's an order of magnitude better.
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1. jjtheblunt ◴[23 Jun 25 18:25 UTC] No.44358583[source]▶
> an order of magnitude better

off topic, but i wonder why that phrase gets used rather than 10x which is much shorter.

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2. Scene_Cast2 ◴[23 Jun 25 18:28 UTC] No.44358607[source]▶
10x is too precise.
3. fkyoureadthedoc ◴[23 Jun 25 18:29 UTC] No.44358618[source]▶
- sounds cooler

- 10x is a meme

- what if it's 12x better

4. refulgentis ◴[23 Jun 25 18:41 UTC] No.44358728[source]▶
"10x" has been cheapened / heard enough / de facto, is a more general statement than a literal interpretation would indicate. (i.e. 10x engineer. Don't hear that much around these parts these days)

Order of magnitude faces less of that baggage, until it does :)

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5. bxparks ◴[23 Jun 25 18:42 UTC] No.44358740[source]▶
I think of "an order of magnitude" as a log scale. It means somewhere between 3.16X and 31.6X.
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6. screye ◴[23 Jun 25 19:00 UTC] No.44358916[source]▶
It's meant to signify a step change. Order of magnitude change = no amount of incremental changes would make up for it.

In common conversation, the multiplier can vary from 2x - 10x. In context of some algorithms, order of magnitudes can be over the delta rather than absolutes. eg: an algorithms sees 1.1x improvement over the previous 10 years. A change that shows a 1.1x improvement by itself, overshadows an an order-of-magnitude more effort.

For salaries, I've used order-of-magnitude to mean 2x. Good way to show a step change in a person's perceived value in the market.

7. neutronicus ◴[23 Jun 25 19:11 UTC] No.44359021[source]▶
5x faster is an order of magnitude bc of rounding
8. chuckadams ◴[23 Jun 25 19:11 UTC] No.44359027[source]▶
Because "magnitude" has cool gravitas, something in how it's pronounced. And it's not meant to be precise, it just means "a whole lot more".
9. jjtheblunt ◴[23 Jun 25 19:22 UTC] No.44359120[source]▶
yeah that's what i meant with 10x, like it's +1 on the exponent, if base is 10. but i'm guessing what others are thinking, hence the question.
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10. BeetleB ◴[23 Jun 25 19:44 UTC] No.44359304[source]▶
Short answer: Because the base may not be 10.

Long answer: Because if you put a number, people expect it to be accurate. If it was 6x faster, and you said 10x, people may call you out on it.

11. bmacho ◴[23 Jun 25 19:53 UTC] No.44359387[source]▶
Because it's not 10x?
12. psunavy03 ◴[23 Jun 25 22:12 UTC] No.44360739[source]▶
Would you say it faces . . . orders of magnitude less baggage?
13. bxparks ◴[24 Jun 25 03:01 UTC] No.44362526{3}[source]▶
The problem is that 10x appears to be a linear scale. It could mean 9.5x to 10.5x if it's supposed to have 2 significant digits. Or it could be 5x to 15x if it meant to have 1 significant digit.
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14. jjtheblunt ◴[24 Jun 25 17:51 UTC] No.44368849{4}[source]▶
good point