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AdieuToLogic ◴[] No.44352075[source]
Here is a gradated set of exercises to determine one's phone addiction, if any, in increasing levels of potential difficulty.

  1 - on an off day, with no reason to require phone use,
    put your phone in a dresser drawer for the day and
    do not use or look at it.

  2 - on an off day, with no reason to require phone use,
    put your phone in a dresser drawer for the day and
    leave your residence for at least one hour.

  3 - leave your phone at home when either meeting friends,
    getting lunch, or going to the grocery store.

  4 - leave your phone at home when going into the office
    for one day.

  5 - leave your phone in a dresser drawer for an entire
    weekend.

  6 - leave your phone at home when traveling for more
    than a day (vacation, visiting family, etc.).
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1. CGMthrowaway ◴[] No.44352441[source]
How does this work when you need a phone for 2fa?
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2. AdieuToLogic ◴[] No.44352472[source]
> How does this work when you need a phone for 2fa?

See the stipulation of:

  on an off day, with no reason to require phone use
If you "need a phone for 2fa" then that qualifies as a "reason to require phone use."
3. AdieuToLogic ◴[] No.44352630[source]
> How does this work when you need a phone for 2fa?

Just out of curiosity, suppose you are not on-call for work and it is an observed holiday. Do you foresee the need for two factor authentication for non-work activities?

In other words, is 2fa a requirement for daily life?

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4. eCa ◴[] No.44353124[source]
One example would be Github for personal projects. There are several other use cases where the phone is a factor for logging into services.
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5. em500 ◴[] No.44353252{3}[source]
Git pull a day before, git push a day later? Have we forgotten to do anything without a persistent internet connection 24/7? Or why we'd use a distributed version control system in the first place.
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6. eCa ◴[] No.44353531{4}[source]
It was an example of a use case familiar to many here. Some people use Github for more than just git.
7. LeafItAlone ◴[] No.44355463[source]
>In other words, is 2fa a requirement for daily life?

I never stay logged into accounts in browsers on my personal devices. And work requires daily auto. So in general if I need to do anything with any accounts, I need 2fa access. And for the phone apps I do stay logged in to, well, they are on my phone.

8. timerol ◴[] No.44356643[source]
Level 4 is going into the office for a day, so anyone requiring 2fa at work cannot pass that point
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9. rrr_oh_man ◴[] No.44356910[source]
1Password?
10. ecb_penguin ◴[] No.44357332{3}[source]
There's no need to overcomplicate a silly exercise with rigid rules.

Focus on the intent of the exercise. If you really mentally cannot get past 2FA, then get a hardware token, or a TOTP client on your desktop. Lots of solutions if this is really the hangup.

11. ecb_penguin ◴[] No.44357351[source]
You work around it

1. Get a hardware token

2. Install a TOTP desktop client

3. Only use the phone for 2FA

4. You understand the spirit of the exercise and don't get bogged down by silly rules.

12. 0x457 ◴[] No.44358019{4}[source]
We also conditioned to make small feature branches. Even my hobby projects force me to go through PR process.