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New US visa rules will force foreign students to unlock social media profiles

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523 points sva_ | 6 comments | 18 Jun 25 23:11 UTC | HN request time: 0.731s | source | bottom
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linotype ◴[18 Jun 25 23:27 UTC] No.44314122[source]▶
You’re naive if you think they’ll stop with foreign students.
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1. lmm ◴[19 Jun 25 02:59 UTC] No.44315058[source]▶
Why? Blatantly unconstitutional searches at the border have been going on for decades under administrations from both sides. The US public very evidently doesn't care about the rights of people entering the country. Trying to do the same thing to citizens away from the border will be a different story altogether.
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2. linotype ◴[19 Jun 25 05:14 UTC] No.44315645[source]▶
Just because both sides might do it doesn’t make it right.
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3. Hnrobert42 ◴[19 Jun 25 05:19 UTC] No.44315679[source]▶
The US Supreme Court has long held that the border mitigates "reasonable" in the 4th amendment such that warrantless searches at the border are constitutionally sound. [0]

That said, this isn't a search. It is the presumption of guilt if a search is refused. I agree with you that it's bad policy, but it's not unconstitutional.

0 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

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4. lmm ◴[19 Jun 25 08:40 UTC] No.44316660[source]▶
I agree. But it makes talking like this is some unprecedented novel violation that creates a big slippery slope seem somewhat disingenuous.
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5. rightbyte ◴[19 Jun 25 11:16 UTC] No.44317542{3}[source]▶
"Whataboutism" and "bothsideism" used to counter critique of hypocrisy might be the most toxic rethorical concepts gaining mindshare lately.
6. nickthegreek ◴[19 Jun 25 13:38 UTC] No.44318582[source]▶
also, the border is 100miles from the line. so basically a large part of the land of the free.