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    Google AI Ultra

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    320 points mfiguiere | 13 comments | 20 May 25 18:20 UTC | HN request time: 1.339s | source | bottom
    1. CSMastermind ◴[20 May 25 20:30 UTC] No.44045596[source]▶
    I pay for OpenAI Pro but this is a clear no for me. I just don't get enough value out of Gemini to justify a bump from $20 / month to $250.

    If they really want to win they should undercut OpenAI and convince people to switch. For $100 / month I'd downgrade my OpenAI Pro subscription and switch to Gemini Ultra.

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    2. radicality ◴[20 May 25 20:57 UTC] No.44045846[source]▶
    It does look like it comes with a few other perks that would normally cost a bunch too, specifically, 30TB of Google drive storage
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    3. J_Shelby_J ◴[20 May 25 21:35 UTC] No.44046154[source]▶
    If they really want to win, they should make a competitor for O1-pro. It’s worth $200 to reduce LLM babysitting needs by %10.
    4. mvdtnz ◴[20 May 25 21:51 UTC] No.44046299[source]▶
    Perhaps they're not interested in beating OpenAI in the business of selling $1 for $0.50.
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    5. airstrike ◴[20 May 25 22:37 UTC] No.44046624[source]▶
    Yeah, no, thanks for the cross-sell but I'm not interested.
    6. CSMastermind ◴[20 May 25 22:51 UTC] No.44046721[source]▶
    Sure but failure to capture marketshare now could easily snowball into larger failure of the business later.
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    7. jameslk ◴[21 May 25 01:05 UTC] No.44047399[source]▶
    It’s the modern day Comcast Triple Play: internet, cable, and phone
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    8. philistine ◴[21 May 25 01:31 UTC] No.44047503{3}[source]▶
    Except Comcast didn't have a reputation for shutting down services left and right. How much are you willing to bet that one of those services in that bundle is discontinued within a year?
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    9. tmpz22 ◴[21 May 25 01:42 UTC] No.44047548{4}[source]▶
    You're coming awfully close to defending Comcast haha. GP's point is more that they're Comcast-like, director level incentives have become the primary focus of the company such that they will ram down dark patterns for short term profit at the cost of long term growth and product excellence - just as Comcast has done for the last two decades.

    Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, Google crumbles but a few more vacation homes get purchased and a larger inheritance is built up for the iPad-kid progeny of the Google management class.

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    11. croes ◴[21 May 25 03:34 UTC] No.44048045[source]▶
    Doesn’t matter if you have no use for these 30TB
    12. lnenad ◴[21 May 25 08:40 UTC] No.44049492{3}[source]▶
    This isn't some 30 people startup. Google's revenue from other sources will easily keep them running and building on top of these products with close to zero chance of failing no matter what happens with AI in the next decade.
    13. crowbahr ◴[21 May 25 11:57 UTC] No.44050498[source]▶
    I mean OpenAI already loses money on their Pro line. So it's less selling $1 for $0.50 and more selling $1 for $0.25 because the guy down the street sells it for $0.50