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Mexican Navy ship crashes into Brooklyn Bridge leaving two people dead

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147 points teleforce | 9 comments | 18 May 25 06:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.679s | source | bottom
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ars ◴[18 May 25 06:53 UTC] No.44019505[source]▶
The article says it lost power, but the photo shows a wind powered vessel with sails.

Some kind of hybrid ship?

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SllX ◴[18 May 25 07:01 UTC] No.44019538[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cuauht%C3%A9moc_(BE01)

Looks like it. It’s a sail training ship, but it has an engine looking at the infobox, presumably so it’s not relying on the sails for tours such as this, and maybe because the ship itself is for training and they need a failsafe? To be honest, I’m not gathering what the purpose of such a ship is to a modern Navy other than maintaining cultural continuity and a tradition in wind sailing.

EDIT: I'm still inside the edit window but there have been several good answers below. Rather than responding to each one individually let me just say y'all have provided some great answers. Thanks!

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Tomte ◴[18 May 25 07:06 UTC] No.44019558[source]▶
Learning the fundamentals.

Germany puts all aspiring naval officers through a tour on the Gorch Fock.

It‘s kot just culture, although those ships also serve as excellent ambassadors to far-flung countries.

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1. nickysielicki ◴[18 May 25 07:18 UTC] No.44019593[source]▶
The fundamentals have obviously changed. At no point in any serious engagement will it ever be important to have experience with sailing. This ship should have been dry docked and turned into a museum years ago. Two people are dead.
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2. ceejayoz ◴[18 May 25 07:21 UTC] No.44019603[source]▶
The fundamentals include things like teamwork and following orders. You can learn those on a sailing ship just fine.
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3. shakow ◴[18 May 25 07:22 UTC] No.44019606[source]▶
That sail-trained sailors make better sailors than engine-trained sailors is similar to how glider-trained pilots make better pilots after transition than engine-trained pilots. They typically acquired a better understanding of the medium they're evolving in, giving them a deeper understanding of the dynamic situation of their craft.
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4. achierius ◴[18 May 25 07:24 UTC] No.44019617[source]▶
This incident could have happened regardless of the type of ship. Unless you have some reason to believe otherwise, I'd suggest against saying so.
5. nottorp ◴[18 May 25 07:37 UTC] No.44019671[source]▶
Same for being aware of the lower abstraction layers down to machine code when you're programming in a high level language.
6. bombcar ◴[18 May 25 10:38 UTC] No.44020357[source]▶
You learn them better. A big ship can run just fine with a few people; heck, it's probably possible to run with just one if we admit it.

Big sailing ships don't work like that, you can't furl a sail without intense physical cooperation and teamwork.

7. loloquwowndueo ◴[18 May 25 13:21 UTC] No.44021241[source]▶
There’s a lot more to seamanship and crewmanship than propulsion methods. Cuauhtemoc is a training ship designed to teach that, not primarily how to work sails. Also it was built in 1982 so I fail to see how it should be a museum ship since it’s not that old or historic.
8. kbelder ◴[19 May 25 23:55 UTC] No.44036280[source]▶
You can go your whole programming career without using assembly, but it unquestionably makes you a better programmer.
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9. nickysielicki ◴[23 May 25 11:19 UTC] No.44071793[source]▶
Sure -- what the fuck does that have to do with sailing, though?