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511 points meetpateltech | 15 comments | | HN request time: 0.959s | source | bottom
1. kleiba ◴[] No.44006997[source]
Just curious: is your company happy sharing their code-base with an AI provider? Or are you using a local installation?
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2. asadm ◴[] No.44007019[source]
why not? OpenAI won't be stupid to look at my code and be that vulnerable legally. It ain't worth it.
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3. bhl ◴[] No.44007041[source]
Cursor has enterprise mode which forces a data privacy feature.
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4. pixl97 ◴[] No.44007283[source]
Companies commonly share their code with SAAS providers. Typically they'll have a contract to prevent usage otherwise.
5. nmca ◴[] No.44008574[source]
It is a cost benefit trade off, as with all things. Benefits look pretty good.
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6. layer8 ◴[] No.44009374[source]
The cost of sharing your code is unknown, though.
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7. odie5533 ◴[] No.44009896[source]
For 99% of companies, their code is worthless to anyone but them.
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8. KaiserPro ◴[] No.44009995[source]
They literally scraped half of youtube, made a library to extract the audio and released it as whisper.

Of _course_ they are training on your shit.

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9. manquer ◴[] No.44010289[source]
For copying the product / service yes it is not worth much .

However for people trying to compromise your system access to your code can be a valuable asset .The worth of that could be well beyond just enterprise value of the organization , it could people’s lives or bring down critical infrastructure.

You don’t just have access to code you created and have complete control to. Organizations have vendors providing code(drivers , libraries…) with narrow licenses that prohibit sharing or leaking in anyway. So this type of leak can open you to a lot of liability.

10. philomath_mn ◴[] No.44010299{3}[source]
Under what circumstances would that cost be high? Is OpenAI going to rip off your app? Why would they waste a second on that when there are better models to be built?
11. asadm ◴[] No.44011856{3}[source]
thats publicly accessible shit. my code is trade secret and IP. I would litigate that shit if a line I wrote ends up in public model, easiest money to be made.
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12. frontalier ◴[] No.44011973{4}[source]
you will litigate nothing, and if you do you'll be dismissed anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shira_Perlmutter#Firing

13. KaiserPro ◴[] No.44012663{4}[source]
> my code is trade secret and IP

Which is the same law that protects "publicly accessible shit".

In the same way that you can't legally just rip MP3s off the internet[1], or copy movies and distribute them.

[1] unless you're rich.

14. kleiba ◴[] No.44045153[source]
If that was true, hardly any company would be opposed to open sourcing their code base.
15. kleiba ◴[] No.44045168[source]
So only in "enterprise mode", huh. Interesting, thanks.