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335 points meetpateltech | 16 comments | 13 May 25 17:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.413s | source | bottom
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bflesch ◴[16 May 25 11:38 UTC] No.44004143[source]▶
How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration.

This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it.

Once they made their millions at Google these engineers will be our landlords, angel investors, you name it. The level of ignorance is unfathomable. Very sad.

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1. jampekka ◴[16 May 25 12:57 UTC] No.44004919[source]▶
The expressed goal is emotionally impacting UX. They clearly got strong emotions out of you. Mission accomplished!
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2. echelon ◴[16 May 25 14:07 UTC] No.44005714[source]▶
It's not just a laggy mouse. I scrolled through half a page of a completely black screen. On a high powered machine with lots of bandwidth and low latency.

The designers here have lost the plot.

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3. Ghoelian ◴[16 May 25 15:07 UTC] No.44006406[source]▶
Can't even move the mouse while scrolling lmao
4. billfor ◴[16 May 25 16:28 UTC] No.44007312[source]▶
And they are very well paid for all that work!
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5. riffraff ◴[16 May 25 16:55 UTC] No.44007588[source]▶
I'm on mobile and scrolled through most of this waiting for images to load, and wondering why I didn't see any.
6. jchw ◴[16 May 25 17:55 UTC] No.44008160[source]▶
Very unusually, everything is working and smooth on Fennec F-Droid for me. Usually it's the opposite but it happens more often these days.
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7. Perepiska ◴[16 May 25 18:05 UTC] No.44008254[source]▶
Macbook air M1 scrolls text in Firefox fast and smoothly...
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8. johnisgood ◴[16 May 25 18:41 UTC] No.44008603[source]▶
I could do way better and I am not even a web developer. Their talent is social networking and/or securing the job somehow. :P
9. johnmaguire ◴[16 May 25 18:58 UTC] No.44008755[source]▶
Working perfectly fine in LibreWolf on macOS. Huh.
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10. ryanwhitney ◴[16 May 25 19:52 UTC] No.44009206[source]▶
“then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration”
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11. therein ◴[16 May 25 20:42 UTC] No.44009644{3}[source]▶
The cursor was laggy for about 10-15 seconds on my M4 Max after the page loaded, my only sin is probably not using Chrome.

34% modernity, 32% subculture, 30% rebelliousness made me cringe.

12. jchw ◴[16 May 25 21:20 UTC] No.44009899{3}[source]▶
I know you aren't supposed to comment on it, but man, you just never know what will set people off on this site, and god knows they won't tell you. Are people bothered that I chimed in to say "works for me" or that I insinuated Fennec F-Droid is usually less smooth than the Webkit-based mobile browsers? I'll never know for sure. Sometimes with Hacker News, whether a comment is actually well-received feels like a dice roll.
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13. nomel ◴[16 May 25 21:39 UTC] No.44010002{4}[source]▶
My naive guess is that it's a null hypothesis situation. You not seeing a problem isn't a useful indicator for if there is a problem. More than that, it probably hits too close to home for mostly software devs, with the dreaded "Well it works on my machine."
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14. ahmedfromtunis ◴[16 May 25 22:10 UTC] No.44010212{3}[source]▶
I don't know what graphics acceleration mean in this context, but my 5-year old computer, with 4 Gb of RAM and no discreet graphics card didn't witness any lag.
15. jchw ◴[16 May 25 22:10 UTC] No.44010213{5}[source]▶
Must be something like that. More than anything, I'd love to know why Firefox seems to be winning on this page; practically the opposite of what you'd expect out of Google pages (because, even without a tinfoil hat on, it's clear they don't test on Firefox often). Maybe uBlock Origin is just cutting out some poorly-written script, who knows.
16. BHSPitMonkey ◴[16 May 25 22:46 UTC] No.44010466[source]▶
I don't think it's performance bottlenecking so much as that the site is capturing the cursor and taking over its physics/acceleration, I think? Which probably isn't noticeable as long as the acceleration is similar to how your OS shell is configured, but was definitely noticeable for me on GNOME.