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dgimla20 ◴[16 May 25 09:25 UTC] No.44003351[source]▶
Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach.

"It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level."

I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve what I'm trying to do, and turn it off again, so I can get back to the real world.

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jeffhuys ◴[16 May 25 09:31 UTC] No.44003397[source]▶
It's effectively designing to maximize attention retention, or however you want to call it. Keep the eyes at your product for as many seconds as possible, to increase profit.

I mean... to make a dElIghtFul eXpEriEncE.

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dgimla20 ◴[16 May 25 09:35 UTC] No.44003412[source]▶
I must be going through some mental changes nowadays. I just want my computers and software to get their job done and go back to the real world as soon as possible. I feel sad about all the time I lost staring at screens growing up. I wonder if this will be widespread opinion someday.

The quicker the phone is back in the pocket, or the computer is turned off again after using it for something (that it does better than I can) the better.

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jeffhuys ◴[16 May 25 09:48 UTC] No.44003476[source]▶
I'm going through the same thing. Grew up dreaming of having a pocket computer. Nowadays you can basically live your entire life on the internet, as others are doing the same; people (think they) get their social needs met, buy food, do their work, find partners, anything. And it seems like a big part of the younger crowd wants (?) this trend to continue.

I don't want to speak for you, but I think there's a big crowd that's unique here: we have one foot in the "old world" and got to experience that, and now we see the "new world".

If you grow up with basically a phone in your hand, and you see how big a part of your life it is, I think you're way more inclined to appreciate these changes. After all, their phone is an extension of who they are, it's part of the whole picture, the outfit.

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dgimla20 ◴[16 May 25 10:20 UTC] No.44003646[source]▶
Thanks for writing this. It's refreshing to see there's a bunch of us in the same boat.

I think you've hit the nail on the head about the two worlds. My phone sits in my pocket most of the day and just comes out when I need it. Every day I see people looking at their phone as they walk through busy streets, walk their dog, pushing prams, at the gym on the treadmills, bikes and on the machines. Especially jarring to see when it's a rarish sunny day and all that changes is the brightness setting on their phone.

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1. johnisgood ◴[16 May 25 12:02 UTC] No.44004382[source]▶
Yeah, my phone is just an accessory I keep in my pocket, but only when I know I may need it for something, e.g. time or calls. Sometimes I do not even take it with myself. No reason for me to do that. I just hit 30.
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2. wltr ◴[16 May 25 15:35 UTC] No.44006723[source]▶
I feel you guys, but do you read and write here from your laptops? I never come here from a desktop browser, only a smartphone.
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3. johnisgood ◴[16 May 25 16:12 UTC] No.44007158[source]▶
I do not own a laptop, I get on HN from my desktop, never from my phone, although I do have "Hacki" installed, I just never use it.

> I feel you guys

contemplates life... I'm getting old. :D

4. thewebguyd ◴[16 May 25 17:19 UTC] No.44007833[source]▶
> I feel you guys, but do you read and write here from your laptops? I never come here from a desktop browser, only a smartphone.

I do. I hate virtual keyboards and the typing experience on a phone frustrates me to no end, and the copy & paste experience is just as poor. During the workday I don't even look at or use my phone, I reply to messages from my Mac when needed.

Anything that needs more than a couple lines back and forth I do from my laptop. Having a full discussion or conversation using a phone virtual keyboard is such a user hostile experience to me.

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5. duderific ◴[16 May 25 17:47 UTC] No.44008068{3}[source]▶
> Having a full discussion or conversation using a phone virtual keyboard is such a user hostile experience to me.

Same - when I'm scrolling Reddit I often feel like I want to add a comment, but then think about having to "type" a few paragraphs on my phone, and just pass on it. However, I'm definitely on the older side, and I do understand that the younger generations have no such qualms.

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6. johnisgood ◴[16 May 25 18:47 UTC] No.44008664{4}[source]▶
Yup, pretty much my experience. There is no way I am going to write paragraphs on a phone. I do not know, I just hit 30, so I guess I am considered old? I definitely am old school, though! You know, nothing fancy, just Void Linux with i3, XTerm, etc.

You know what I wish I could get? A Blackberry phone with that keyboard (maybe KeyOne?). I wonder if there is anything like that still in production.

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7. thewebguyd ◴[16 May 25 19:04 UTC] No.44008803{5}[source]▶
> You know what I wish I could get? A Blackberry phone with that keyboard (maybe KeyOne?). I wonder if there is anything like that still in production.

Yes! Before the iPhone came out my daily driver was a BlackBerry Bold. The keyboard was perfect, and it had the trackball (and later, trackpad) for text selection. Still not full size keyboard typing speed but pretty close. Then I switched to the first gen Moto Droid when it came out and it had the slide open landscape keyboard. Not as ergonomic as the black berry but it worked. Then after the first iPhone, everyone dumped physical keyboards and I'm still salty about it.

I wish there was room in the mobile space to break apart the Samsung/Apple duopoly. Would have loved to see both Windows phone and webOS succeed, and the variety of devices that could have brought.