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philipallstar ◴[] No.43985073[source]
The increased speeds are excellent for those who can afford the toll. This is a universal benefit of toll roads for those people.
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bryanlarsen ◴[] No.43985179[source]
And the investments in public transit and bike paths are excellent for those who can't. Such unalloyed win-wins are hard to find.
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lokar ◴[] No.43985193[source]
I lived in Manhattan, and was very well paid. I did not own a car, and loved it. This would have been great for me as well.
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timewizard ◴[] No.43989879[source]
Did you have children or did you live alone?
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epistasis ◴[] No.43989923[source]
As someone with children, I can not imagine the bliss of living in Manhattan and being able to do things without needing a car.

Car-centric urban planning is hell with kids. You have to load them up into the car for any small trip. You can't walk or bike anywhere because cars make it so dangerous.

My only regret about living in the US is this car hellscape that is so hard to avoid. It's mandated by law, not chosen by the market.

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grugagag ◴[] No.43990148[source]
Having a dinky appartment that is still expensive is not worth it unless you’re young and don’t have kids and want to be around everything you care about. Or you’re rich and don’t mind paying a fortune to live in a nicer appartment in Manhattan. If I had the money I would still prefer something outside Manhattan just to be able to avoid the noise pollution, the crowds and all that Manhattan commotion.
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david-gpu ◴[] No.43990555[source]
I hear that noise pollution in Manhattan has gotten better since congestion pricing started.

Cities aren't loud; cars are loud.

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SecretDreams ◴[] No.43990600[source]
> Cities aren't loud; cars are loud.

EVs have entered the chat

Still, I'd always prefer less cars and more transit.

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dogsgobork ◴[] No.43990889[source]
I first heard the phrase used by parent in a video [1] by youtube channel Not Just Bikes, which found EVs to be similar to ICE cars at typical speeds.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8

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1. Symbiote ◴[] No.43992203[source]
I find EVs noticeably quieter, but the "typical speeds" here in Copenhagen are properly lower than where you live.

At 30km/h or so, the main noise is the engine, so EVs are quieter (as the video says).