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Changes since congestion pricing started in New York

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437 points Vinnl | 6 comments | 13 May 25 10:43 UTC | HN request time: 0.416s | source | bottom
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philipallstar ◴[14 May 25 14:36 UTC] No.43985073[source]▶
The increased speeds are excellent for those who can afford the toll. This is a universal benefit of toll roads for those people.
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neves ◴[14 May 25 15:10 UTC] No.43985492[source]▶
The best decision would be to completely forbid individual transport. Now the common space dedicated to streets is for who can pay extra. Forbid individual transport and create some parks and pedestrian streets.
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1. Larrikin ◴[15 May 25 02:04 UTC] No.43991167[source]▶
If I live in a NYC like this how do I visit my friends in Philadelphia? What if they live in Towson MD? Now what if they live in the suburbs? How would I visit anybody in the country side anywhere? What if I want to buy in bulk at Costco? What if I just want to buy anything I can't carry on the subway?

I have spent over a decade without owning a car in multiple cities. It's definitely possible but I've been fortunate enough to have friends and family with personal vehicles I can use.

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2. jghn ◴[15 May 25 03:58 UTC] No.43991713[source]▶
If you only need an occasional car then rental cars aren’t a bad deal. For somewhat more frequent needs there’s stuff like zipcar and turo
3. neves ◴[15 May 25 12:03 UTC] No.43994129[source]▶
This is crazy. Costco just exists because America is an auto addicted society. In sane places you can make multiple small errands. Maybe you could even get to know some neighbors
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4. robin_reala ◴[15 May 25 13:32 UTC] No.43994907[source]▶
You get a train or bus to the nearest stop to your friends and they come and pick you up. This is what city dwellers in countries with developed infrastructure are used to.

Alternatively, you rent a car from a car sharing service for the few times a year you want to do this.

5. etblg ◴[15 May 25 17:11 UTC] No.43997099[source]▶
Funnily enough there is a Costco in NYC, in Astoria (Queens) decently close to Manhattan. You can take the ferry there from Manhattan, or the subway, or busses, or bike there even, or heck just take an uber if you bought a lot of stuff.

Philadelphia is also an odd choice to bring up since there's a train from the center of Manhattan to Philly, and it's even a common commute for people to go back and forth.

6. Larrikin ◴[16 May 25 11:41 UTC] No.44004176[source]▶
Costco has many locations internationally. They're kind of nice in that the pizza is the same if you ever feel home sick in a country with terrible pizza.

Small errands also completely defeats the point of Costco. Running to a corner store to buy 4 rolls of toilet paper ends up being way more expensive than going to Costco and picking up 30+ at a time.